Disco Breaks.
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How many pile ups occur on descents again? I'm not a cycling encyclopedia like some of you but I can't think of one crash where more than 3 or 4 people went down - most of them well seperated from the bikes...
Usually it's just one guy dicking the corner up, something that would be reduced with superior braking control
..no, but seriously, some of those descents in the spring classics would be much safer with brakes that worked the smae in dry, mud, wet, snow, beer splash etc...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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My main point is hypocritical nature of the UCI.
all of the reasons you guys have given (even in mockery) are valid; the heat, the extra time of change; alignment etc for the uci/teams not to use them.
BUT the only reason i can see they have given is the improved breaking under wet conditions. With this in mind why do they allow Carbon AND metal rims which have massively different breaking characteristics in the wet?!0 -
Its not about the brakes performance benefits, its about the fact with discs, you can build more lighter/aero wheel rims. At the moment, these dont exist. You cant just start using them until the UCI has type approved them which it has'nt. Safety etc is all bull, if heat was an issue in a crash, why are spikey chainrings not banned?0
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“A request has been sent to the UCI to use them in a [road] event this year, but is has been refused,” Carron said via an email to VeloNews. “The UCI is not necessarily against its use, but we need more time to make the correct decision regarding the safety in competition. I cannot give you a precise timeline, but this will be an important topic of the next equipment commission this summer.
the UCI is concerned that a small number of riders with brakes that work significantly better than those of their fellow riders, particularly in bad conditions, would create a dangerous situation.
“We are currently studying the possibility to open its use in competition,” Carron explained. “But we would not like to worsen the situation by increasing the difference of braking behavior inside the peloton.”
Yes, it is about safety. The weight is not an issue, as i said before you have pro teams adding weight to bikes to meet lower legal limit. Aero wouldn't be as major a factor in RR, TT i could understand.0 -
ddraver wrote:How many pile ups occur on descents again? I'm not a cycling encyclopedia like some of you but I can't think of one crash where more than 3 or 4 people went down - most of them well seperated from the bikes...
Usually it's just one guy dicking the corner up, something that would be reduced with superior braking control
..no, but seriously, some of those descents in the spring classics would be much safer with brakes that worked the smae in dry, mud, wet, snow, beer splash etc...
Ghent Bubblegum 2003 had a ridiculous multi man pile up on a cobbled descent."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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I would hate to race against people using disc brakes. You will always get jumpy people and people riding into the back of them all the time.Scott Addict 2011
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deejay wrote:
"Off Topic" That brings a smile to my face.Rick Chasey wrote:
They used to put badges on the back of Jags in the '60s telling the driver behind that it had really good brakes.
Small company (just started in the 60's) gave me an Austin-Mini and the fastest it would run at was 87 mph with a good tail wind.
With a mile to go to the end of Motorway M45 an E type Jag overtook me doing at least a Ton and as I watched him I thought he should be braking before the roundabout at the end.
He did eventually and skidded straight into the side of an 8 wheel truck that was going around the R/B.
As I passed by I noted the Jag was starting to fold like an envelope.
I never saw one of those badges though.
Jag MK2's I believe were the first road car to have disk brakes.
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Markwb79 wrote:I would hate to race against people using disc brakes. You will always get jumpy people and people riding into the back of them all the time.
You get this anyway with new riders on road bikes currently.
actually Disc brakes are easier to gauge than rim jobs (
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craprider wrote:Markwb79 wrote:I would hate to race against people using disc brakes. You will always get jumpy people and people riding into the back of them all the time.
You get this anyway with new riders on road bikes currently.
actually Disc brakes are easier to gauge than rim jobs ( )
You might get that now, but it would be far worse with the increased stopping power of discs.
Imagine being in the middle of the group and someone braking hard all of a sudden. In pro races it might be ok, but amateur racing it will be awful.Scott Addict 2011
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Markwb79 wrote:Imagine being in the middle of the group and someone braking hard all of a sudden. In pro races it might be ok, but amateur racing it will be awful.
I dont think we can prevent that, if someone rocks up to a 2,3,4 race next summer on discs, who will stop him racing? TBH, someone braking hard in the middle of a group is a shit at any time. At the moment, no-one really knows if discs stop better than say Dura Ace anyway0 -
during standard conditions, it's shiv weather they make the big difference.
Edit *standard conditions probably are wet...0
