Fake Rapha t shirt?

page23
page23 Posts: 182
edited September 2012 in Road buying advice
Dear collective,

I recently bought a casual t shirt off fleabay. It was advertised as being a genuine Rapha item. I have a couple of Rapha casual t shirts and they both have an official Rapha label. This one doesn't and the label (not the neck one, the one that usually has the washing instructions) is marked with a brand of "Continental". The fit is also different to the others I have although the quality looks good.

I wondered, on the off-chance, whether anyone else might have a casual Rapha t shirt that has this label so I can work out whether it's genuine or not?

Many thanks.

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  • Harry182
    Harry182 Posts: 1,170
    I have a Rapha '2004 Etape' t-shirt that I bought from the Rapha stand at the London bike trade show back in 2004. IIRC it has a Continental brand label and no Rapha label. (I'm being too lazy to dig it out of the laundry hamper to check.) It's remains one of my favourite t-shirts.
  • My Rapha t-shirt has Rapha written on the white washing lable, and a map of where the shop is in London printed inside it.
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  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    Are you worried that by wearing fake Rapha you may appear a little pretentious... ;)

    Sorry but i just couldn't resist... :lol:
  • page23
    page23 Posts: 182
    EKIMIKE wrote:
    Are you worried that by wearing fake Rapha you may appear a little pretentious... ;)

    Sorry but i just couldn't resist... :lol:

    What's pretentious about Rapha? Quality kit costs money, so therefore I'd rather know that what I'm buying is genuine as that was how the item was described. It's a contract.

    To those more helpful replies, I'm most grateful.
  • page23
    page23 Posts: 182
    Again, most helpful.

    *yawn*
  • to paraphrase yourself "you like to know what you are buying is genuine" then why not buy direct from rapha? Then it will be genuine for sure? |If it was cheaper on Ebay then it sort of goes against your ethos? I dont wear Rapha so would have no idea?
  • page23
    page23 Posts: 182
    @mallorcajeff

    See the post above yours.
  • t4tomo
    t4tomo Posts: 2,643
    Page23 wrote:
    [What's pretentious about Rapha? A large corporate marketing spend costs money and needs to be passed onto the consumer in the product price, so therefore I'd rather know that what I'm buying is genuine as that was how the item was described. It's a contract.

    To those more helpful replies, I'm most grateful.

    there fixed it for you.
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  • ste_
    ste_ Posts: 124
    Useful. How's your Bianchi?
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    Page23 wrote:
    Again, most helpful.

    *yawn*

    Again, i don't think you understand. I wasn't trying to be helpful, i was trying to make a joke.

    To explain, there is quite a large consensus that Rapha uses a lot of pretense in their marketing (pricing strategy included). I was pointing out that it would be amusing if you were to feel pretentious if you did in fact own a fake Rapha item as the idea of creating a fake is an attempt to make something appear greater than it is - that would be the definition of pretense. Get it?

    If you don't get that then you're probably stupid enough to pay £150 for a pair of bib-shorts... (that's a joke too...)
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    In fact whilst i was just browsing Rapha.cc (which in itself is a pretentious URL - something like '.com' would be more suitable considering it is a commercial venture or '.net' as it is a web address. Anyway back to the point...) I noticed a tag-line on the tab of my web browser - "The world's best cycling shorts, trousers, and tights | Rapha". That's an entirley pretentious statement. There is no recognised standard for such a quantification for starters. The very fact that a subjective criteria, comfort, would likely be the most important criteria is telling.

    So what's pretentious about Rapha? There's a few starting points at least...
  • tonye_n
    tonye_n Posts: 832
    Page23 wrote:
    Dear collective,

    I recently bought a casual t shirt off fleabay. It was advertised as being a genuine Rapha item. I have a couple of Rapha casual t shirts and they both have an official Rapha label. This one doesn't and the label (not the neck one, the one that usually has the washing instructions) is marked with a brand of "Continental". The fit is also different to the others I have although the quality looks good.

    I wondered, on the off-chance, whether anyone else might have a casual Rapha t shirt that has this label so I can work out whether it's genuine or not?

    Many thanks.

    YAWN!
  • page23
    page23 Posts: 182
    Good attitude gents. Nice stable forum clique you have there - keep up the good work. I see one of you had nothing better to do on Christmas Eve not so long ago. Sums it up really.

    I bet your chain-gang is a laugh a minute.
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    So not only do you fail to understand the concept of a joke, you're now getting spiteful.

    Chapeau...

    I think i'll be the bigger man and not get into personal slants. Take a look at your own attitude perhaps?

    PS if you're so interested in my post history then you'll see the hundreds of valuable, useful contributions i've made to this place.
  • EKIMIKE wrote:
    In fact whilst i was just browsing Rapha.cc (which in itself is a pretentious URL - something like '.com' would be more suitable considering it is a commercial venture or '.net' as it is a web address. Anyway back to the point...) I noticed a tag-line on the tab of my web browser - "The world's best cycling shorts, trousers, and tights | Rapha". That's an entirley pretentious statement. There is no recognised standard for such a quantification for starters. The very fact that a subjective criteria, comfort, would likely be the most important criteria is telling.

    So what's pretentious about Rapha? There's a few starting points at least...

    It's common knowledge that the .com domain was unavailable so they used .cc (this going against the founders own business ethos for a new business) ...

    Regarding the price of the kit, if you can afford to buy it without using a credit card then why not? Calling it pretentious, a waste of money etc. doesn't help the OP or, quite frankly, yourselves ... It comes across as bitter and short-sighted ...
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    It's common knowledge that the .com domain was unavailable so they used .cc (this going against the founders own business ethos for a new business) ...

    Regarding the price of the kit, if you can afford to buy it without using a credit card then why not? Calling it pretentious, a waste of money etc. doesn't help the OP or, quite frankly, yourselves ... It comes across as bitter and short-sighted ...

    In which case you come across as assuming, defensive and insecure. Of course i wouldn't actually level that at you with intent, there's no need to and i wouldn't dare make such personal assumptions. Let's be clear, i was making a few jokes.

    If you want to know my position on price then i can tell you i'll happily spend £90 on a pair of bib-shorts. I don't think buying good quality kit is a waste of money. I'd love to know why you made the assumption that i thought differently.

    It's great to see the Rapha fanboys out in force though. :D You might like this: http://internationale.teamjva.com/
  • DavidJB
    DavidJB Posts: 2,019
    The rapha kids are always good for a laugh.
  • Yes, how we laugh ... As we eat our Ciabatta and pour scorn on your Hovis sandwiches ... Or, on most occassions, the Frites from your shoulders ...