Shared Use design guidance

Agent57

The Department for Transport have produced new guidance on shared used paths, which might interest folks here.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/publications/ltn-01-12/
http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/l ... clists.pdf

I particularly like that under "Cyclist categories" on page 11, they've included "fast commuter". Remember, kids, it's not a race.

phy2sll2

A lot of sensible stuff in there. I wonder if anyone with responsibility for designing / building shared use paths will actually read it though.

bails87

Don't be daft, 3 metres for a 2 way cycletrack? The one I occasionally use is a metre at most in places.

jds_1981

bails87 wrote:

Don't be daft, 3 metres for a 2 way cycletrack? The one I occasionally use is a metre at most in places.

The single way one I use rarely is half a metre, with steel bollards down the middle.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=51.565962, ... 87,,0,13.5

greg66_tri_v2.0

Anyone else get part way into it and start thinking "this has been massively overthought. There must be a much simpler solution?"

mudcow007

the one i use most morning is this wide

bails87

mudcow007 wrote:

the one i use most morning is this wide

two way cycle + shared with peds though?

Did it exist in it's current format before it was designated as a cycle route? Or was that built, out of nothing, for cyclists?

roger_merriman

bails87 wrote:

mudcow007 wrote:

the one i use most morning is this wide



Did it exist in it's current format before it was designated as a cycle route? Or was that built, out of nothing, for cyclists?

Looks like a old railwayline,

I cut though Bushy Park which varies from wide enough for two cars to pass to barely wider than my bars.

walkingbootweather

The impression I got was that shared use paths were very much a last resort and would be created only if there was a serious problem and cyclist couldn't be accommodated on the road. Don't get me wrong, most of the time I'd much prefer to be on the road but there are loads of virtually unused footways adjacent to busy roads that could easily be made shared use for negligible cost. So doing might encourage the less 'furious cyclists' to make use of them.

mudcow007

roger merriman wrote:

bails87 wrote:

mudcow007 wrote:

the one i use most morning is this wide



Did it exist in it's current format before it was designated as a cycle route? Or was that built, out of nothing, for cyclists?

Looks like a old railwayline,

I cut though Bushy Park which varies from wide enough for two cars to pass to barely wider than my bars.

tis true a disused railway line that was up until 10yrs ago a cinder path

but now its a shared line

Agent57

The "greenway" in Lancaster that I use twice daily is pretty good. It's reasonably wide, and has a solid white line to clearly mark the "for pedestrians" and "for cycles" lanes. The only downside is that a lot of cyclists, and a lot of walkers, don't stick to the correct side.

The last 20 seconds of this video show it quite well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np3sbXKjA74

hegyestomi

jds_1981 wrote:

bails87 wrote:

Don't be daft, 3 metres for a 2 way cycletrack? The one I occasionally use is a metre at most in places.

The single way one I use rarely is half a metre, with steel bollards down the middle.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=51.565962, ... 87,,0,13.5

That is brilliant!!! Who's idea was that??? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

mudcow007

hegyestomi wrote:

That is brilliant!!! Who's idea was that??? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

probably the same people who designed this gem of a cycle route

clicky

its a one way round so your face on coming traffic, an the route stops at the corner :shock:

bails87

For those who haven't seen it:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.meg/w ... the-month/

Initialised

Nah, this: http://www.outdooraccess-scotland.com/o ... s/cycling/ is a much better idea, lets see it spread south of the border.