How the other half train...
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28mph average, but being passed like you were standing still.
Pure comedy gold.0 -
Think you might be on to something here ....dee4life2005 wrote:After reading the "two cadence sensor" post ... Maybe they have 2 magnets on their wheel causing speed to be doubled , assuming its not a gps based speed reading.
Only earlier this year the OP was moaning about how he was unable to sustain 18mph for more than 3-4 minutes ..
viewtopic.php?f=40011&t=12835237coombsfh wrote:I weigh more than I did and this showed as keeping anywhere near 18mph for more than 3/4 mins on the flat was hard.
So in 7 months he's gained 10mph+ ...
I do cruise at 28mph - on a 3% gradient ... downhill ... 0 -
Slowbike wrote:
Think you might be on to something here ....dee4life2005 wrote:After reading the "two cadence sensor" post ... Maybe they have 2 magnets on their wheel causing speed to be doubled , assuming its not a gps based speed reading.
Only earlier this year the OP was moaning about how he was unable to sustain 18mph for more than 3-4 minutes ..
viewtopic.php?f=40011&t=12835237coombsfh wrote:I weigh more than I did and this showed as keeping anywhere near 18mph for more than 3/4 mins on the flat was hard.
So in 7 months he's gained 10mph+ ...
I do cruise at 28mph - on a 3% gradient ... downhill ...
LOL at the forum police.
Rule no1, always remember what your previous posts are when posting a new topic.... 0 -
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It's taken me about a year of regular riding to up my average by about 2.5 mph so I see no problem in someone improving on that by a factor of 4 in half the time.
Ahem...
Although of course if it was, as is likely, a fast burst of two minutes duration down a false flat with a strong following wind* then I might just believe the OP. But then that's a piece of piss and anyone can do it so our time-trialling racing snake's performance needs to be put into perspective.
*There's a stretch like that near me. Completely sheltered by trees from sidewinds and apparently flat yet tremendously fast in one direction. South to North I'll register say 17.5mph. The opposite direction and its more like 27.5mph. Guess which one is nearer my usual speed?0 -
Fursty Ferret wrote:*There's a stretch like that near me. Completely sheltered by trees from sidewinds and apparently flat yet tremendously fast in one direction. South to North I'll register say 17.5mph. The opposite direction and its more like 27.5mph. Guess which one is nearer my usual speed?
The above is far more likely, I admit.
I have detailed it wasn't sustained or sustainable. I do not travel everywhere on my bike at 28/29 mph, nor did I claim this was my usual average. I am just staggered that someone managed to whip past us with such apparent ease whilst we were gunning it.0 -
I think you're a relatively new cyclist - and you say yourself that you don't do much training.
So why would you be surprised that someone could overtake you with ease ? He was clearly a fitter rider ?
A low tribar position probably gives a rider at least 2mph advantage over the nornal 'on the hoods' position anyway.0 -
coombsfh wrote:Sigh.
I don't have a strava or a go pro or a garmin.
I did not say we averaged 28/29 for the whole ride at all. I said we were doing it and were at the point of overexertion.
The guy who passed us on the felt had tri-bars and was lying as flat as a snake.
For further context, my mate has a specuialized transition, myself an allez elite. The computer I have is a cateye, set to 700c mode.
The ride we did was 16 miles on the nose (short I know) the distance travelled whilst trying to keep that sort of speed up was only 4 miles.
To my mind, this isn't super human, this isn't bullcarp and someone passing us, is admittedly a passive boast on my part but more important is the bloke who zipped past.
I measured on google maps btw.
You said you settled into a 'steady' pace of 28/29 this wouldn't imply overexertion, but would imply you can keep that pace up for a good majority of the ride,
Question - You said "Before the ride, we both gave it "Oh, let's take it easy...not been training much, mate." Needless to say, this was bullcarp. As soon as we left we both tried to achieve mach 3 for 10 minutes" so what speed was you doing you tried to "achieve Mach 3" if you then SLOWED to a mere 28/29??
Just asking One plays football, tennis or golf, one does not play at cycling0 -
coombsfh wrote:Fursty Ferret wrote:*There's a stretch like that near me. Completely sheltered by trees from sidewinds and apparently flat yet tremendously fast in one direction. South to North I'll register say 17.5mph. The opposite direction and its more like 27.5mph. Guess which one is nearer my usual speed?
The above is far more likely, I admit.
I have detailed it wasn't sustained or sustainable. I do not travel everywhere on my bike at 28/29 mph, nor did I claim this was my usual average. I am just staggered that someone managed to whip past us with such apparent ease whilst we were gunning it.
It can be quite staggering to witness just how fast the pro's and cat 1's can ride. I ride with a bunch of them Sunday mornings, and to be honest my only goal on these rides is to see how long I can stay with 'em.
So far I manage about 45 minutes at which point they just turn up the heat. It's quite demoralizing to be riding at a good 25mph in a group and watch as the other riders notch it steadily up to around 30 and disappear into the distance.
This weekend I'm aiming for 50 minutes.0 -
OK I'll admit, it was me who was the demi god, I'd just popped down the newsagents on my mums shopping bike so I took it easy and only averaged about 45mph for the whole ride, I reckon I could have gone for 47 if I'd taken the wicker basket off the front though... :-P0
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The OP clearly enjoyed himself when out on his bike and decided to tell us about it. The miserable gits (forum police) on here made a couple of assumptions, investigated his past posts (cos they have nothing better to do with their time) and assumed that he was making boasts about his average speed and that he had that gained those improvements (based on the assumptions made by other people with no evidence to back up those assumptions) in a short period of time that no one else could possibly achieve. The OP did not indicate that this was his average speed but merely indicated that he sustained that speed for a while.The only people who have made themselves look foolish here is....well i will leave that up to you.
Sometimes someone does pass you and it is impressive when they do. It gives you something to aim for if you are of a positive nature and depresses you if you are of the negative nature. Keep on training I say.0 -
mr bricolage wrote:The OP clearly enjoyed himself when out on his bike and decided to tell us about it. The miserable gits (forum police) on here made a couple of assumptions, investigated his past posts (cos they have nothing better to do with their time) and assumed that he was making boasts about his average speed and that he had that gained those improvements (based on the assumptions made by other people with no evidence to back up those assumptions) in a short period of time that no one else could possibly achieve. The OP did not indicate that this was his average speed but merely indicated that he sustained that speed for a while.The only people who have made themselves look foolish here is....well i will leave that up to you.
Sometimes someone does pass you and it is impressive when they do. It gives you something to aim for if you are of a positive nature and depresses you if you are of the negative nature. Keep on training I say.
Nicely put Mr Bricolage!
I enjoyed the OP's post. Yes, the speeds quoted were a little hard to swallow but perhaps it was a false flat, 45mph tailwind or the computer was on the blink (my garmin frequently gives spurious readings, like my top speed of 114.5kph here - http://connect.garmin.com/activity/183796299), WHO CARES?
I don't see that the OP has set out to mislead merely to say that he was impressed by a bloke on a bike who passed him when he was flat out. Neither is he trolling or abusing others. Leave him be!0 -
mr bricolage wrote:The OP did not indicate that this was his average speed but merely indicated that he sustained that speed for a while.The only people who have made themselves look foolish here is....well i will leave that up to you.
Sometimes someone does pass you and it is impressive when they do. It gives you something to aim for if you are of a positive nature and depresses you if you are of the negative nature. Keep on training I say.
Rubbish. What the OP said was this:
"Once warmed up (puffed out), we settled into a steady pace and were taking turns at the front, maintaining a steady 28/29mph on a flat ride (for us this is right on the edge of sustainability - probably a bit past it to be honest)"
If that isn't a suggestion of a sustained speed over a concerted period of time, I don't know what is. So, having been provided the facility of free speech, I decided to air my doubts as to the veracity of what was being suggested. And lo and behold, order was restored when the OP clarified what he meant, and no kittens were killed in the making of this thread.0 -
it's only the internet people, it's not real ;-)
I'd always assumed he was having a wind up and was just seeing how people would react!
Fair play if you've had a nice ride out and about with your mate, that's what it's all about :-)
Just don't expect to say 28mph and not have a few raised eyebrows! :-)0 -
Calm down dear, it's only an internet forum! The OP raised a few eyebrows by implying he was riding at a steady 28mph for a good duration - whereas it seems that this was a peak speed over a short distance ... It's fair to pull back past posts to add a bit of weight when questioning the statement ..mr bricolage wrote:The OP clearly enjoyed himself when out on his bike and decided to tell us about it. The miserable gits (forum police) on here made a couple of assumptions, investigated his past posts (cos they have nothing better to do with their time) and assumed that he was making boasts about his average speed and that he had that gained those improvements (based on the assumptions made by other people with no evidence to back up those assumptions) in a short period of time that no one else could possibly achieve. The OP did not indicate that this was his average speed but merely indicated that he sustained that speed for a while.The only people who have made themselves look foolish here is....well i will leave that up to you.
You don't believe the shopper bike story - cruising at 45mph do you?
If the OP had left out the speed - and just said "a fair old lick" then it wouldn't have raised a question at all ...
At the end of the day it's about credibility - I don't know the OP and he doesn't know me - I have a choice - I can take his posts at face value or I can apply a little suspicion about his claims - it seems the suspicion is correct - and next time a slightly "incredible" claim comes through we'll remember that ...
Nothing wrong with boasting - to a point - just don't be surprised if you're caught out though!
Indeed - I managed a tow off one who did pass me - didn't last long though and I think he could've dropped me at any point - had he wanted too ... I'd like to think I'm a bit quicker now - and perhaps I could hold onto the tow for a little longer before he zips off into the distance!mr bricolage wrote:Sometimes someone does pass you and it is impressive when they do. It gives you something to aim for if you are of a positive nature and depresses you if you are of the negative nature. Keep on training I say.0 -
Look if someone had said to me they held a 28 mph average speed then I would question it as that's sort of thing a pro time trialler would typically hold. However as we don't know the distance and conditions involved (became apparent later on) then why make assumptions. Sometimes there are roads which when you have a tailwind and a false flat you can sustain that speed and for an inexperienced cyclist you may think "Wow I'm doing great!" and you have no reason to doubt what you have done.
To me average speed is total distance over time. If you have held 28mph over 4 miles of that does not mean have an average 28mph over 16 miles and that is why I thought that some of the assumptions were perhaps a little presumptious. The manner in which it was called into question was perhaps a little disdainful.
As you have all said "It's the internet" and we are all entitled to our opinions
Personally I'm quite pleased with a recent effort of mine, it's a shame the OP doesnt have a GPS trace of his ride
http://app.strava.com/rides/20014585#0 -
Exactly - and how else do you interpret:mr bricolage wrote:Look if someone had said to me they held a 28 mph average speed then I would question it as that's sort of thing a pro time trialler would typically hold.
Doesn't indicate any length, but the implication is that they were able to maintain that effort for a significant period ...Once warmed up (puffed out), we settled into a steady pace and were taking turns at the front, maintaining a steady 28/29mph on a flat ride
I think we're all happy that to be able to ride at 28/29 on the flat is no mean feat - but "steady pace" does imply a degree of length about it ..
Nice ride - could do with some hills in it though!mr bricolage wrote:Personally I'm quite pleased with a recent effort of mine, it's a shame the OP doesnt have a GPS trace of his ride 0
