Jacket Idea - this may be a stupid idea though!!
chris_bass
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I have noticed whilst cycling towards the wind that, as a relatively skinny fellow, my jacket often tends to flatten out and act as a sail/parachute combo which really slows me down. one solution is to pedal harder, a fine solution granted! but it got me thinking:
if a jacket or something worn under a jacket could esential make it more triangle shaped at the front this would hugely imporve aerodynamics. I'll admit it would be tricky to get it comfortable and not noticable but having tested this by just pulling the front forwards myself when cycling this does seem to help.
having seen the new series of dragon's den is coming up i may have to head to the work shop and find a wind tunnel for some extensive testing!!
if a jacket or something worn under a jacket could esential make it more triangle shaped at the front this would hugely imporve aerodynamics. I'll admit it would be tricky to get it comfortable and not noticable but having tested this by just pulling the front forwards myself when cycling this does seem to help.
having seen the new series of dragon's den is coming up i may have to head to the work shop and find a wind tunnel for some extensive testing!!
www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes
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Chris Bass wrote:I have noticed whilst cycling towards the wind that, as a relatively skinny fellow, my jacket often tends to flatten out and act as a sail/parachute combo which really slows me down. one solution is to pedal harder, a fine solution granted! but it got me thinking:
if a jacket or something worn under a jacket could esential make it more triangle shaped at the front this would hugely imporve aerodynamics. I'll admit it would be tricky to get it comfortable and not noticable but having tested this by just pulling the front forwards myself when cycling this does seem to help.
having seen the new series of dragon's den is coming up i may have to head to the work shop and find a wind tunnel for some extensive testing!!
A wind tunnel will cost you 10K for a few hours use... good luck!left the forum March 20230 -
Or just buy a decent jacket that fits properly?More problems but still living....0
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Chris Bass wrote:but having tested this by just pulling the front forwards myself when cycling this does seem to help.
Last time I tried that, I had to have a difficult conversation with social services!0 -
the jacket does fit properly but i'm not aerodynamic underneath it, thats the problem!
i wasnt really serious about the wind tunnel idea to be honest!www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0 -
Chris Bass wrote:I'll admit it would be tricky to get it comfortable and not noticable but having tested this by just pulling the front forwards myself when cycling this does seem to help.0
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Is it possible to shake your head and roll your eyes at the same time0
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This whole thread reminds me of the guy who thought because he was quick on a pedalo he could be a pro cyclist.The only disability in life is a poor attitude.0
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It does sound as though your jacket is too loose. I shouldn't really do that0
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just to point out - i'm not serious with this suggestion!!www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0
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i tend to carry a device under my jacket that stretches the jacket almost to bursting point and creates a dome effect that essentially channels all air around me .... this aids aerodynamic efficiency thus keeping my average speed up.
you too can achieve this same effect with a large belly as well.0 -
So, is the jacket the problem or your shape, 'cos you could just take the jacket offmy isetta is a 300cc bike0
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get a snug fitting gillet - folds up and goes in your back pocket when not needed
when on it does catch any extra wind
Its the most versatile piece of kit I have0 -
If you shape the jacket into an aerosol shape, as the wind flows over it, it will create a force that will propel you forwards. This is how a yacht sails "close hauled" just a few degrees off from into wind."The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby0
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are you lot bored ?????Specialized S Works SL2 . Campagnolo Record 11spd. rolling on Campag Zonda wheels
http://app.strava.com/athletes/8812110 -
have you not noticed how boring the forum has become?
traffic cone in the front of the jacket, not shorts.my isetta is a 300cc bike0 -
I'm another skinny rider who suffers from excessive flap in the wind. Jackets are made for more ample riders but your idea of shaping the spare fabric into a more aerodynamic profile sounds good. Some kind of inflatable beer belly/life jackets kind of thing. I have no idea what the optimum shape would be, a sharp point, a curve or some counter-intuitive weirdness. You may have to add an inflatable aerotail or hunchback like those TT helmets.
Probably best referred to the Halfbakery for further R&D0 -
Some trendy new helmets seem to feature round vents or dimples...Why not try to recreate this effect in front of your jacket with a colander?0
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i was thinking of trying to gain weight by eating only dorritos, toblerone, dairylea, slices of pizza and other triangle shaped foods in the hope it would make me triangle shaped and then problem solved!www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0
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Chris Bass wrote:i was thinking of trying to gain weight by eating only dorritos, toblerone, dairylea, slices of pizza and other triangle shaped foods in the hope it would make me triangle shaped and then problem solved!
You'd be quicker going for cosmetic surgery.0 -
my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny0
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sungod wrote:
Actually you make a good point and have reminded me of a 4th year lab class I did at Uni. Streamlining can be dramatically improved by shaping the trailing surface/edge rather just than the leading surface/edge. A blunt trailing edge creates a (partial) vacuum causing drag thus affecting speed.
Look at the hump on the back of the rider crashing in the lower right pictures:
http://www.amleathers.co.uk/gallery.php0 -
Hmmmm, and maybe it wasn't such a foolish idea! Back to the wind tunnel!!www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0
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Some folk carry all sorts of spares on a ride.
Never again worry about that helmet strap failing,stuff a spare helmet down the front of your jacket AND go faster.
Why has nobody mentioned this before?0 -
Chris Bass wrote:i was thinking of trying to gain weight by eating only dorritos, toblerone, dairylea, slices of pizza and other triangle shaped foods in the hope it would make me triangle shaped and then problem solved!
I just fell off of my chair!!!
BRILLIANT0