Oscar Pistorius

dw300

So, did you all see the Paralympic 200m final last night? Here's the video if you didn't .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gHnJz-lxLg

This is the race that Oscar 'My blades don't give me an advantage in the Olympics' Pistorius, complained that the others guys blades gave him an advantage.

What do you think?

Simmotino

dw300 wrote:

What do you think?

He may have bo**ocks the size of coconuts to overcome what he has in his life, but he's a petulant little s**t of a sore loser.

bobtbuilder

Great take on this over at the Daily Mash: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/hooves-to-ensure-fairness-in-paralympic-sprinting-2012090339750

special11

He lost fair and square... Don't know why he's complaining .... Seems to me he doesn't have a leg to stand on!

nickellis

special11 wrote:

He lost fair and square... Don't know why he's complaining .... Seems to me he doesn't have a leg to stand on!

Nice... :roll:

andy9964

A bit like the Olympic sprinters complaining that Bolt has longer legs and they can't match his stride
Impressive as it is that he/they can compete like this, he's still a sore loser

alihisgreat

Andy9964 wrote:

A bit like the Olympic sprinters complaining that Bolt has longer legs and they can't match his stride
Impressive as it is that he/they can compete like this, he's still a sore loser

The thing is that the legs are artificial and can be altered.. Bolts height is genetic.


Apparently this centres around the issue of effectively having to choose an appropriate length for the blades.. and I heard that Oscar had his shortened in order to compete in the Olympics against the 'able bodied' athletes.

mamba80

i can understand him being pee'd off at losing but he did his cause no good at all.
What i cant fathom is: why is an able bodied athlete competing at the Paralympics? he is one or the other and i did see him running in the 400m a few aweeks ago :?

RoadMeridaBen

ALIHISGREAT wrote:

Andy9964 wrote:

A bit like the Olympic sprinters complaining that Bolt has longer legs and they can't match his stride
Impressive as it is that he/they can compete like this, he's still a sore loser

The thing is that the legs are artificial and can be altered.. Bolts height is genetic.


Apparently this centres around the issue of effectively having to choose an appropriate length for the blades.. and I heard that Oscar had his shortened in order to compete in the Olympics against the 'able bodied' athletes.

Didnt he break the WR in qualifying? the blades didnt seem to be a problem then... the guys made a tit of himself

Ands

mamba80 wrote:

i can understand him being pee'd off at losing but he did his cause no good at all.
What i cant fathom is: why is an able bodied athlete competing at the Paralympics? he is one or the other and i did see him running in the 400m a few aweeks ago :?

I agree - he should compete at one or the other, not both. By competing at both, he's denied another athlete an Olympic opportunity. Why should he get 2 chances and someone else none?

jawooga

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/davidbond/20 ... atter.html

The blog is typical David Bond stuff, bit lazy. But the comments section are hilarious. My favourite is this by a guy arguing that any prosthetics are an un-natural addition to an athlete's body:

"Look at it rationally. We don't give those with dwarfism stilts in the paralympics. And if you have no legs, you have no legs. Compete then with no legs."

Dmak

jawooga wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/davidbond/2012/09/why_the_pistorius_story_matter.html

The blog is typical David Bond stuff, bit lazy. But the comments section are hilarious. My favourite is this by a guy arguing that any prosthetics are an un-natural addition to an athlete's body:

"Look at it rationally. We don't give those with dwarfism stilts in the paralympics. And if you have no legs, you have no legs. Compete then with no legs."

lmfao

shockedsoshocked

He's always been a bit of a tit to be honest.

rick_chasey

Pistorius took less strides than the winner anyway.

rolf_f

ALIHISGREAT wrote:

The thing is that the legs are artificial and can be altered.. Bolts height is genetic.


Apparently this centres around the issue of effectively having to choose an appropriate length for the blades.. and I heard that Oscar had his shortened in order to compete in the Olympics against the 'able bodied' athletes.

It's a funny one. My legs are relatively long for my body height so if I had both my legs amputated above the knee you'd expect my height with prosthetic legs to be shorter than my height currently is. However, presumably any para-olympic athlete who has had both legs amputated below the knee can be assumed to need a specific size of prosthetic.

Anyway, I wonder if Pistorius understands the concept of irony.....

CiB

Rick Chasey wrote:

Pistorius took less strides than the winner anyway.

Fewer.

And stride count isn't the whole story; maybe the additional length allowed him to optimise his stride, much like we don't all go everywhere on a 53-11, we might find a 53-18 is just so and does the job just that bit better. Taking simple facts from the BBC's Sports Editor as the basis for Pistorious being wrong is a bad way to go anyway.

I don't see why everyone wants to jump on his back. He'd flagged it up before the event as an issue; the Olympic Committee have agreed to meet him to discuss it so it would seem that he may have at least the basis of a cause for complaint. And he apologised for the timing, not the nature of his complaint.

Fact is if the rules or maybe the tradition of the event is that X is allowed and someone turns up wearing Y and wins, it's a bit off. Ultra-competitive bloke gets a bit miffed when beaten in such circumstances? Like to think I'd have done the same.

Simmotino

I believe OP was permitted to use exactly the same prosthetics as Oliveira for the Paralympics but he chose not to due to the additional testing etc. so stayed with the blades he'd used at the Olympics.

Then, having decided not to use them, chose to moan about the bloke who did.

Nuttin' but a sore loser :roll:

rolf_f

CiB wrote:

Fact is if the rules or maybe the tradition of the event is that X is allowed and someone turns up wearing Y and wins, it's a bit off. Ultra-competitive bloke gets a bit miffed when beaten in such circumstances? Like to think I'd have done the same.

Firstly, in this case X and Y are allowed so why complain about someone turning up in Y

Secondly, if you go around trying to say that a piece of high tech bendy carbon fibre is exactly the same as a lower leg, angle, foot, toe, skin and muscle combo and in no way going to confer an advantage one way or the other, you can't really say that someone else having an ever so slightly longer bit of carbon fibre is themselves at an advantage over you.

A few weeks ago he won an argument he probably shouldn't have - he can't really complain if the same argument is used to his detriment.

CiB

Rolf F wrote:

CiB wrote:

Fact is if the rules or maybe the tradition of the event is that X is allowed and someone turns up wearing Y and wins, it's a bit off. Ultra-competitive bloke gets a bit miffed when beaten in such circumstances? Like to think I'd have done the same.

Firstly, in this case X and Y are allowed so why complain about someone turning up in Y

Secondly, if you go around trying to say that a piece of high tech bendy carbon fibre is exactly the same as a lower leg, angle, foot, toe, skin and muscle combo and in no way going to confer an advantage one way or the other, you can't really say that someone else having an ever so slightly longer bit of carbon fibre is themselves at an advantage over you.

A few weeks ago he won an argument he probably shouldn't have - he can't really complain if the same argument is used to his detriment.

Fair point. I didn't bother looking into it or finding out the facts of the matter, more an instinctive idea that if someone's turned up with a bigger ball or whatever and won he might have a point.

jim453

In the semi's Pistorious ran over a tenth of a second quicker than the eventual winner in the final. Wind readings identical.

Poor performance on the day.

Alain Quay

I think the reporters maybe stick the microphone in their face too soon. Oscar - and the rest of them - are amazing
and we can only guess how incredibly important that moment is, after what they have been through to get there.

dw300

Can we not have a 'handicapped' Olympics for us non-disabled people? I reckon I'm pretty fit for a short, slow-twitch, asthmatic ginger ectomorph. Get me in a category with similar people and a few years to train and I reckon I could medal too.

We basically have an event for genetic freaks, and an event for disabled people .. being average sucks!

carl_p

Ands wrote:

mamba80 wrote:

i can understand him being pee'd off at losing but he did his cause no good at all.
What i cant fathom is: why is an able bodied athlete competing at the Paralympics? he is one or the other and i did see him running in the 400m a few aweeks ago :?

I agree - he should compete at one or the other, not both. By competing at both, he's denied another athlete an Olympic opportunity. Why should he get 2 chances and someone else none?

Dark ages attitude. You don't just turn up and say I want to run the 400m, you do have to actually qualify for team selection. If he qualifies ahead of an able bodied athlete so be it. Perhaps Sarah Storey should hand back her gold medal on that basis?

To be fair to Pistorius he did a superb interview tonight shortly after being beaten by Jonnie Peacock.

craprider

^^^^^^ this.