FS bike, First or second hand??

pesky_jones

Hi,

I'm relatively new to MTB and have recently purchased a specialized hardrock sport disc 2012 however this being a hardtail is simply not cut out for the type of riding I want to get into.

I bought this new, and after a few problems realised i need a FS bike. I have two questions, first being whether it is wiser to buy a new bike around the price mark £800-£1200, or to buy a second hand bike around £500-£700 and get the same-ish model if you get my drift. Second question being where would be a good place to look for a second hand bike.

Any response will be apreciated...thanks.

TOM

omegas

MTB_TR wrote:

Second question being where would be a good place to look for a second hand bike.

Have a look on ebay, you might get lucky and someone have a bike for sale,

felix.london

I'm sure you realised you want a FS bike rather than need one (which is fair enough) - I ride my Rockhopper all over my local alps and I love it - it's more than capable over anything I can ride.

But to answer your question I'm a big believer in buying used - you just get so much more bike for your money (there is obviously an element of risk involved) I'm riding a €4K DH bike which I got for €2K and it's only 12months old...to me it's a no brainer; Cars and bikes = used. Clothes and tech = new. Simples

pesky_jones

Felix-

Thanks a lot, great answer. Yeah i'm sure i do want a FS rather then need one but I'm riding the hardrock though my local forest every night and the noise it makes after jumps is starting to worry me. Thanks again for the advice though its what i wanted to hear really, Thanks.

rockmonkeysc

A £1200 full suspension bike won't do anything your Hardrock won't do. Just buy some better wheels & forks.
Be careful buying used. A dead fork or shock can cost you a heap of cash to put right. I wouldn't buy used.

Chunkers1980

Most jump bikes are not FS, there's more to go wrong. Jumping is about how strong all the components are and how well you land.

felix.london

RockmonkeySC wrote:

A £1200 full suspension bike won't do anything your Hardrock won't do. Just buy some better wheels & forks.
Be careful buying used. A dead fork or shock can cost you a heap of cash to put right. I wouldn't buy used.

This ^

I should've pointed out - I have upgraded every component on my Rockhopper! (except the frame) I reached it's limits as soon as I moved to the mountains with the stock forks, pedals & disc rotors

pesky_jones

Thanks for all the replies guys i'm not going to look at buying a FS seeing as every reply has basically said i dont need one, just going to look at some new forks etc. Thanks a lot guys, you've probally saved me a lot of money!!

TOM

felix.london

When I put the 120mm Reba RL on the 'hopper it became like a new bike overnight. Then the fork brakes in/settles down a bit and it got better then I actually worked out how to dial the settings how I wanted it and got better still! Happy days. Best upgrade bar none...then pedals (the ones I had were poop - half SPD, half crap flat), then dropper post, then wheels, then grips...

cooldad

Loads of rubbish spoken here. FS is just better. No one 'needs' one, but everyone should have one. Easy to get a good, new one for around a £1000.

ilovedirt

I try and buy new when possible, and FS does make things easier and lets you ride faster (usually), but I've never been able to afford to buy one new. If you can afford it, do it.

rockmonkeysc

cooldad wrote:

Loads of rubbish spoken here. FS is just better. No one 'needs' one, but everyone should have one. Easy to get a good, new one for around a £1000.

FS is not better than a hardtail. It's just different. I had full sus xc bikes, got bored and now back on a hardtail and having more fun. I use a full sus for downhill because I'm too old to race downhill on a hardtail.
You won't get a good new one for a grand, it's difficult enough to get a good hardtail for a grand.
I can ride as fast on a hardtail as I can on full sus, it's just more fun and challenging

On a similar subject. Rockshox are better than Fox forks, Shimano is better than SRAM & SPD's are better than flat pedals and Gravity enduro should be called "Gravduro" :P

Morty84

There's beens a few really cheap older models, maybe that's a better option than second hand. Personally o wouldn't be bothered getting a old model if it had a massive reduction for eg this.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/68-off- ... 0#comments

cooldad

RockmonkeySC wrote:

cooldad wrote:

Loads of rubbish spoken here. FS is just better. No one 'needs' one, but everyone should have one. Easy to get a good, new one for around a £1000.

FS is not better than a hardtail. It's just different. I had full sus xc bikes, got bored and now back on a hardtail and having more fun. I use a full sus for downhill because I'm too old to race downhill on a hardtail.
You won't get a good new one for a grand, it's difficult enough to get a good hardtail for a grand.
I can ride as fast on a hardtail as I can on full sus, it's just more fun and challenging

On a similar subject. Rockshox are better than Fox forks, Shimano is better than SRAM & SPD's are better than flat pedals and Gravity enduro should be called "Gravduro" :P

You are talking the same BS as this thread
viewtopic.php?f=20005&t=12873694

So I'll give you the same answer.

cooldad wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

At that sort of price you will get a very low end full suspension bike which will end up costing a lot to replace the cheap parts as they wear or break quickly. A hardtail is more than up to the job and if your hardcore then the challenge of riding hard on a hardtail will be more fun! You can easily ride 8 foot drops on a hardtail and they will take big jumps easily. Poor quality suspension will make things more difficult, not easier.

Bollocks on all counts. That RR is very well specced for the money, including Recons up front, and will be fine for XC and trail.
Not everyone is gnarrly and hardcore like you.
And that nonesense about challenge etc is just that.

The RR is £700

cooldad

And again

cooldad wrote:

And a pretty decent review from BR
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/ ... 1-12-45756

Jomox

wrong topic.

felix.london

ilovedirt wrote:

I try and buy new when possible, and FS does make things easier and lets you ride faster (usually), but I've never been able to afford to buy one new. If you can afford it, do it.

This...I think...but not sure...possibly not this.

I spent €2K on a second hand Session 8. If I had the money would I have bought a new Session 8 or a used Session 88. I think I would've got a used 88

cooldad

felix.london wrote:

ilovedirt wrote:

I try and buy new when possible, and FS does make things easier and lets you ride faster (usually), but I've never been able to afford to buy one new. If you can afford it, do it.

This...I think...but not sure...possibly not this.

I spent €2K on a second hand Session 8. If I had the money would I have bought a new Session 8 or a used Session 88. I think I would've got a used 88

And if you'd had more money you would have bought a new one. So what?

felix.london

cooldad wrote:

felix.london wrote:

ilovedirt wrote:

I try and buy new when possible, and FS does make things easier and lets you ride faster (usually), but I've never been able to afford to buy one new. If you can afford it, do it.

This...I think...but not sure...possibly not this.

I spent €2K on a second hand Session 8. If I had the money would I have bought a new Session 8 or a used Session 88. I think I would've got a used 88

And if you'd had more money you would have bought a new one. So what?

No I don't think I would, that's the point. So...I would get more used bike rather than less new bike. Have you read the title of the thread?

cooldad

I also read relatively new to MTB, so I would take a new one, rather than risk a fubared SH one.

Woody80

RockmonkeySC wrote:

On a similar subject. Rockshox are better than Fox forks, Shimano is better than SRAM & SPD's are better than flat pedals and Gravity enduro should be called "Gravduro" :P

You know you've got this all back to front right?

ElliesDad

If you want new for the budget you have you would struggle to beat the Boardman FS Team at £999 and the Boardman FS Pro at £1299. Superbly specced for the money!

jonny2773

You can have mine if you want, its not been abused and is a great first FS

viewtopic.php?f=40089&t=12873955

chez_m356

Woody80 wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

On a similar subject. Rockshox are better than Fox forks, Shimano is better than SRAM & SPD's are better than flat pedals and Gravity enduro should be called "Gravduro" :P

You know you've got this all back to front right?

its just proof that monkeys and illegal substances don't mix too well