How Do You Plan Your New Routes?

CleeRider
CleeRider Posts: 304
edited September 2012 in Road general
Apart from getting in the car, does anyone use a web site or other tool to do this?

I found Google Earth has a great feature where you can simply hover the mouse pointer along the length of a road and it will tell you the elevation at each point. Great for finding routes with/without hills. The streetview feature is also great for actually 'riding' the route from the comfort of your sofa and noting things like the state of the road surface, dangerous junctions, tight bends on descents etc.

Does anyone else have tips to share?
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  • Mike39496
    Mike39496 Posts: 414
    http://bikeroutetoaster.com to plot the route, then Google street view to check out the road quality and turnings in the hope I then won't get lost! I've started putting the maps from bike route toaster on my Garmin 500 too so you can follow the breadcrumb trail (it actually tells you when to turn too!)
  • Sticking with the Google theme, they now offer cycling based directions - it's come up with some interesting routes that hadn't occurred to me.
  • Omar Little
    Omar Little Posts: 2,010
    bikehike.co.uk is the easiest to map with plus it has OS maps as well as google. Only downside is you cant save routes on their website only download the gpx files.
  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    Get dressed

    Lube chain - check tyre pressures

    Prepare bottles + food

    Point bike at door

    Exit door

    Ride
  • ReesA
    ReesA Posts: 62
    I bought an Edge 500 so I can easily input an objective like a climb or something new and then be guided to it. As I ride alone most of the time I found I was repeated the same routes over and over which became a bit boring. With the 500 I can easily go new places and get back -- especially considering I didn't grow up where I live now and don't know the area that well as I haven't done many group/club rides here yet.

    I usually use a combination of a good book like 100 cycling climbs then figure out a circuit to and from the target climb using Garmin connect.
  • http://gb.mapometer.com/

    this is really very good.

    discalimer. well i like it anyway.....
    Cube Acid 2011 MTB
    Boardman Road Team....... yes i have had the BB re-greased :-)
  • taff..
    taff.. Posts: 81
    Get dressed

    Lube chain - check tyre pressures

    Prepare bottles + food

    Point bike at door

    Exit door

    Ride


    this is all well and good if you have lived in the area for a long time and know it reasonably well, but I find it doesn't work so well if you move around the country or want a route while you are away from home.

    I use bikeroutetoaster to plot a route and upload it to my edge 705, before I leave I know how far I'm going to be riding, the amount of climbing and about how long it'll take. I can also chose to avoid A roads and stick to minor roads and lanes, and I know that I'll never get hopelessly lost which I invariably do if I don't plot a route.

    i also leave the route open in a window on my laptop so that if I don't return in a sensible time MrsTaff knows where I've gone :wink:
  • CleeRider
    CleeRider Posts: 304
    http://gb.mapometer.com/

    this is really very good.

    discalimer. well i like it anyway.....

    This is amazing :)

    I especially like the "Show Altitude" graph at the bottom and the nice and simple 'Close Loop' and 'Out & Back' options.

    Thanks for sharing!
  • plowmar
    plowmar Posts: 1,032
    I'm olde worlde and use a road map staying well clear of those with echelons on them, then write down the names of villages on the route and the traffic signs then take care of the rest.

    Alternatively I use a previously ridden route and vear off it at some stage, using my 'home' button on the garmin if I get too lost.
  • Nick Cod
    Nick Cod Posts: 321
    +1 for Routetoaster
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  • nickel
    nickel Posts: 476
    A combination of bikehike and street view, the OS map feature is really useful as what google maps calls a road can sometimes be a cart track!!
  • Rench88
    Rench88 Posts: 27
    +1 for google maps, but when looking for a brand new route bikeroutetoaster is useful
  • simona75
    simona75 Posts: 336
    I will often use about 75% of a previous route as a base and then add on a few new roads based looking at google maps or everytrail. I find this gives me something new to explore while not having to stop at every junction to look at a map.
  • adm1
    adm1 Posts: 180
    www.mapmyride.com

    Good mapping tools, elevation plots, ride & workout logging, export routes, etc....
  • peat
    peat Posts: 1,242
    http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/ in conjunction with an OS map (which you can also get on Bing Maps now i notice)
  • Sentral
    Sentral Posts: 64
    http://www.cyclestreets.net/

    Can chose quietest > shortest routes and download gpx on there. I'll check out the others though!
  • karlth
    karlth Posts: 156
    BRT is keen on sending you along footpaths. Round my way there are a few cuts that are quite doable on a road bike but are not open to motor vehicles so putting it on "driving" means these get missed, but putting it on "cycling" will give it licence to take you up any ginnel it fancies.

    I think I like Bikehike best; it's the most accurate on ascent/descent - BRT is a bit conservative on its calculations there, and Bikehike actually gives gradients - although when it says 20% there could well be a few yards of considerably steeper tarmac.
  • CleeRider wrote:
    http://gb.mapometer.com/

    this is really very good.

    discalimer. well i like it anyway.....

    This is amazing :)

    I especially like the "Show Altitude" graph at the bottom and the nice and simple 'Close Loop' and 'Out & Back' options.

    Thanks for sharing!


    you're very welcome, happy to help :-)
    Cube Acid 2011 MTB
    Boardman Road Team....... yes i have had the BB re-greased :-)
  • adm1 wrote:
    http://www.mapmyride.com

    Good mapping tools, elevation plots, ride & workout logging, export routes, etc....

    +1

    I like the elevation profile and the ease of mapping.
    Hills are like half life - they wait until you're 50% recovered from one before hitting you in the face with the next.

    http://www.pedalmash.co.uk/
  • Robbie1958
    Robbie1958 Posts: 148
    I use Garmin Connect to plan my route. Then i send them to my Garmin 800. it's perfect for discovering roads that i have ridden past before wondering where they go and am now exploring, by using the combination of mapping and gps......perfect
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  • taff.. wrote:
    Get dressed

    Lube chain - check tyre pressures

    Prepare bottles + food

    Point bike at door

    Exit door

    Ride


    this is all well and good if you have lived in the area for a long time and know it reasonably well, but I find it doesn't work so well if you move around the country or want a route while you are away from home.

    I use bikeroutetoaster to plot a route and upload it to my edge 705, before I leave I know how far I'm going to be riding, the amount of climbing and about how long it'll take. I can also chose to avoid A roads and stick to minor roads and lanes, and I know that I'll never get hopelessly lost which I invariably do if I don't plot a route.

    i also leave the route open in a window on my laptop so that if I don't return in a sensible time MrsTaff knows where I've gone :wink:

    Well not necessarily. Some of my best rides have been when I fancied something other than the usual routes and just go get lost in th country for a couple of hours. It's hard to gauge what kinda of mileage I'm doing though, and last time I ran out of water during a hot day and had to water-bonk for the last 45mins or so...
  • wod1
    wod1 Posts: 61
    I live at the bottom of a smooth 500ft descent to my house over 5 miles with the prevailing wind behind me. I usually plan my routes with this as the last 5 miles to make it easier. Very lazy I know but does give the average speed a boost with the legs not working as hard with this approach to home. The home stretch is always in sight that bit sooner.
  • BlakeysFC
    BlakeysFC Posts: 233
    I usually meticulously plan my rides on cycle-route.co.uk or use one of the routes that is on there.
  • karlth
    karlth Posts: 156
    wod1 wrote:
    I live at the bottom of a smooth 500ft descent to my house over 5 miles with the prevailing wind behind me. I usually plan my routes with this as the last 5 miles to make it easier. Very lazy I know but does give the average speed a boost with the legs not working as hard with this approach to home. The home stretch is always in sight that bit sooner.

    May you fall in a hole!

    (only joking)

    I live at the top of a 450' hill which drops in all directions, meaning the last leg of any ride is a 250' climb, involving sustained slopes between 5 and 10% in every direction. At least we'll never flood.
  • WarlKicken
    WarlKicken Posts: 224
    'Plan'? What is Plan?
  • I like the old fashioned way ,ride some where new and use road signs.

    Getting lost for a a while then reaching a main road with signage or asking someone directions.

    I dont do this all the time but i like being on my own not really knowing where im going to end up.

    Sometimes riding the same routes can become tedious so this makes it a bit more interesting.
  • I like the idea of just going out and doing it. I have done it a few times myself and it is great fun.

    But sometimes, especially if it's a long ride, I think planning ahead even vaguely helps.

    Also it's more time riding less time studying signs.
    Hills are like half life - they wait until you're 50% recovered from one before hitting you in the face with the next.

    http://www.pedalmash.co.uk/
  • Go for a ride, get lost then ask your Garmin to get you home, The Garmin generates some of the most bizarre routes, I have ever ridden.
  • Garmin Connect all the way for me.
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