got my Edge 500 but

Team4Luke
Team4Luke Posts: 597
edited September 2012 in Road general
noticed unlike my old 305 it does not have display options for last lap time or last lap ave speed ?
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  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    Mine has speed-lap and time-lap, is that not it ?
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  • Just had a look on mine and it seems to have the lap function in, speed, distance, cadence, power, hr, time and time average lap, balance?, power last lap, power max lap, power np lap?. Sorry to be pedantic but they are there, I have mine set to show lap time every 5 miles.
  • Team4Luke
    Team4Luke Posts: 597
    antfly wrote:
    Mine has speed-lap and time-lap, is that not it ?


    no, those are both for current lap.

    owners manual link here tells you, have also looked at the manual for my old 305 which does have last lap options !

    http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/Edge500_OwnersManual.pdf
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  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    Have you updated to the latest firmware? Which firmware version does your unit have?
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  • Team4Luke
    Team4Luke Posts: 597
    I did the update. It currently shows as version 3.0.
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  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    Ok I've just checked and speed/time last lap aren't there even in firmware 3.0. Why do you need them?
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  • Team4Luke
    Team4Luke Posts: 597
    no great need, just be handy to see what I did on prior lap when I commence my next lap and have it there for each lap.
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  • jagx400
    jagx400 Posts: 132
    Once uploaded to Garmin connect, go to splits and its all in there
  • Team4Luke
    Team4Luke Posts: 597
    yea but I would like it on the road to keep me motivated and maintain the effort each lap, sometimes useful when on chaingang when others ask what we did that lap as we start next one.
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  • DavidJB
    DavidJB Posts: 2,019
    Team4Luke wrote:
    yea but I would like it on the road to keep me motivated and maintain the effort each lap, sometimes useful when on chaingang when others ask what we did that lap as we start next one.

    Ride to heart rate not time/speed.
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    DavidJB wrote:
    Team4Luke wrote:
    yea but I would like it on the road to keep me motivated and maintain the effort each lap, sometimes useful when on chaingang when others ask what we did that lap as we start next one.

    Ride to heart rate not time/speed.

    Why?
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  • Mike39496
    Mike39496 Posts: 414
    amaferanga wrote:
    DavidJB wrote:
    Team4Luke wrote:
    yea but I would like it on the road to keep me motivated and maintain the effort each lap, sometimes useful when on chaingang when others ask what we did that lap as we start next one.

    Ride to heart rate not time/speed.

    Why?

    Because conditions change so the effort you make each lap may vary. Heart rate is more reliable and is more accurate than average speed on measuring effort. Power is better but not everyone has £1200 to spend on a SRM :wink:
  • Team4Luke
    Team4Luke Posts: 597
    my solo training for sessions of between one hour and two hours are always done at HR, my solo sessions for less than an hour are done at various target speeds - not averages though.
    For chaingang, I'm not looking at anything because I am well above any efforts I do solo with the group I ride with, just handy to see the last lap data to see how we are going.
    I've sent a mail to Garmin to ask why no last lap display data.
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  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    Mike39496 wrote:
    amaferanga wrote:
    DavidJB wrote:
    Team4Luke wrote:
    yea but I would like it on the road to keep me motivated and maintain the effort each lap, sometimes useful when on chaingang when others ask what we did that lap as we start next one.

    Ride to heart rate not time/speed.

    Why?

    Because conditions change so the effort you make each lap may vary. Heart rate is more reliable and is more accurate than average speed on measuring effort. Power is better but not everyone has £1200 to spend on a SRM :wink:

    If you don't have a power meter then ride to PE. And you don't need anywhere near £1200 to get a reliable power meter anyway.
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  • Hi Amaferanga, flexisurfer or antfly, apologies for not starting a new thread, but this one appeared quite close to my question and I can see that you understand the Edge 500 quite well. I have just bought mine, I have seen that there are 5 possible pages of data available to view, and you can choose the amount of data that you want to display on screen. My problem is, and hopefully there is a solution. I would like to see, speed, time and HR, maybe even distance. I can see that this information is available but on different pages, is there anything that I can do to customise the pages, move fields around, or am I limited to the page and then the number of data fields. I would rather not be changing pages whilst putting in effort, is that wimpey? But yes, to consolidate all the blurb above, do you just take what you are given, or can we manipulate the information that the Edge 500 displays. I am not interested in Calories expended, until well after the ride when I am contemplating my reward. The clearest display of HR appears to be on the page with power, I would guess that most people don't have the gear to measure power, but are interested in HR, yet I can't get HR on its own. Or am I mistaking and there is another was of organising the display. Apologies if I have bored you.
    Steve
  • RandG
    RandG Posts: 779
    Hi Amaferanga, flexisurfer or antfly, apologies for not starting a new thread, but this one appeared quite close to my question and I can see that you understand the Edge 500 quite well. I have just bought mine, I have seen that there are 5 possible pages of data available to view, and you can choose the amount of data that you want to display on screen. My problem is, and hopefully there is a solution. I would like to see, speed, time and HR, maybe even distance. I can see that this information is available but on different pages, is there anything that I can do to customise the pages, move fields around, or am I limited to the page and then the number of data fields. I would rather not be changing pages whilst putting in effort, is that wimpey? But yes, to consolidate all the blurb above, do you just take what you are given, or can we manipulate the information that the Edge 500 displays. I am not interested in Calories expended, until well after the ride when I am contemplating my reward. The clearest display of HR appears to be on the page with power, I would guess that most people don't have the gear to measure power, but are interested in HR, yet I can't get HR on its own. Or am I mistaking and there is another was of organising the display. Apologies if I have bored you.
    Steve

    great question, one of the reasons I've hung off buying one yet, as I would also like to have the same as what you wish on one screen. To me for training purposes, the HR is the most important.
  • You can customise each of the five pages to show whatever is available. You can display at least 6 parameters per page - you should be able to conjour up something useful out of that.
  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    Yes you can have anything you like on each page up to 8 things and there are 5 pages. You don't have to use them all and you can have it scroll through the pages automatically if you want. It is all under data fields.
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  • Is this right about 5 pages of data, as my 500 only has 3 pages?
  • DaveM399 wrote:
    Is this right about 5 pages of data, as my 500 only has 3 pages?

    You have to add more I think, 3 is the default. Hold the Menu button, then go to Settings, Bike Settings, Data Fields and from here you can add more pages by clicking enter on one that says off and pressing the up arrow to choose how many fields you want on it. Similarly if you want to turn a page off just go onto it and press the down arrow. You can also edit what fields you have from here.
  • all correct above, you can have more than three pages yes, on each page you can add or remove whatever data fields you want or not.
    Set your pages for each type of riding, for example I have a general page for just social/club rides, another for training so I have Lap info fields on that and another for TT where I only want to see speed, ave speed and HR.
    Thing to remember is the more fields you add then those fields get smaller in size and harder to see -put the important ones near the top. Also the Time field requires a larger field otherwise the seconds do not show, no problem, but if you need to know seconds for example when I'm on our chaingang we might agree to change every 30secs or every minute.
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  • amaferanga wrote:
    Mike39496 wrote:
    amaferanga wrote:
    DavidJB wrote:
    Team4Luke wrote:
    yea but I would like it on the road to keep me motivated and maintain the effort each lap, sometimes useful when on chaingang when others ask what we did that lap as we start next one.

    Ride to heart rate not time/speed.

    Why?

    Because conditions change so the effort you make each lap may vary. Heart rate is more reliable and is more accurate than average speed on measuring effort. Power is better but not everyone has £1200 to spend on a SRM :wink:

    If you don't have a power meter then ride to PE. And you don't need anywhere near £1200 to get a reliable power meter anyway.


    Some of my longer threshold sessions are done at HR, I know a lot of people swear by power and how accurate it is and how well you can pace, interestingly my session last week resulted in less than 30sec time difference between 2 x 15mile laps and ave hr was the same for each lap. Could be put down to getting tired on lap 2 and a little HR upward drift, could also be just how I got around some of the left hand corners and junc and wind could have changed too. So, yes riding to HR is an excellent proven method of consistent training.
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  • Mike39496 wrote:
    DaveM399 wrote:
    Is this right about 5 pages of data, as my 500 only has 3 pages?

    You have to add more I think, 3 is the default. Hold the Menu button, then go to Settings, Bike Settings, Data Fields and from here you can add more pages by clicking enter on one that says off and pressing the up arrow to choose how many fields you want on it. Similarly if you want to turn a page off just go onto it and press the down arrow. You can also edit what fields you have from here.

    Thanks, Mike. I can see that now. Doesn't mention this in the manual. In fact page 35 mentions just 3 pages. The extra pages could be useful for a bit of info overload out on the road.
  • Thanks Mike and Antfly, RandG you can get one now. I was just looking at what was before my eyes, but by scrolling a little further I have now found that I can set up the display to show me as much or as little of exactly what I want. I hope I remember to look up and check the road occasionally.
    Brilliant advice guys.