Tyre levers for clincher rims

mjw123
mjw123 Posts: 61
edited September 2012 in Workshop
Hi,

I've just had my first puncture on my new ribble sportif carbon, no big deal until i try and remove the tyre from the rodi clincher rims, the plastic levers i have just done seem strong enough or thin enough to get under the tyre.

Do i need a different tyre of level for these deeper rims ?

TIA,
Mike.

Comments

  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,554
    some tyres are easier to get off than others, and some rims may be on the high end of tolerance so make things a bit harder, but rim depth itself doesn't make a difference

    fwiw i use a crank brothers speed lever, with some tyres it still takes quite a bit of force to get it under the bead, but there's more of it to get a grip on
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • mjw123
    mjw123 Posts: 61
    THanks - might have to try one of those as these tyres are so hard very little flex on them, never going to get them off with these plaggy ones i'm using :-(
  • unixnerd
    unixnerd Posts: 2,864
    When you replace the tyres get foldable ones without the wire insert. I can get mine on and off with no tools at all now.

    My tourer has Schwalbe Marathons, widely regarded as a swine to get on and off. But my late father's 1950's GPO tyre levers work a treat - I imagine postmen are experts on punctures!
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  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    Campag tyre levers are the best I have used. chasing the tyre round the rim helps a lot in gathering slack and then inserting the tyre lever. There has to be a youtube video on it.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • mjw123
    mjw123 Posts: 61
    Went old school in the end - a decent table knife with some butter on did the trick....not much use for on the go repairs though :lol:
  • majormantra
    majormantra Posts: 2,094
    Get these:

    michelin-tire-levers.jpg

    Much better than most plastic ones and they won't scratch your rims.
  • fish156
    fish156 Posts: 496
    If the tyre is too tight to take off with plastic levers, I'd suggest something is wrong.

    Have you moved the tyre off the high spot near the rim? Ensure all the air is out of the tube then move the tyre to the centre of the rim.
    mjw123 wrote:
    Went old school in the end - a decent table knife with some butter on did the trick....not much use for on the go repairs though :lol:
    :shock: Too late.
  • mjw123
    mjw123 Posts: 61
    Starting to p!$$ me off now...repaired both front and back wheels y/day....did 5 miles today and got another :evil:

    This better be an unfortunate co-incidence
  • kentphil
    kentphil Posts: 479
    I use metal tyre levers that I've had for years. A bit of washing up liquid helps the lever slide easily.
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  • Wardster00
    Wardster00 Posts: 143
    It could be the tyres and not the levers?

    I recently bought a Ribble and the only part that I didn't upgrade on bike builder was the tyres. Ribble put on a very cheap tyre that did not flex at all and took me the best part of an hour to take off and put back on again. I have now changed them to some Schwalbe folding tyres and it is absolutely fine.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,337
    Bare hands... All my bikes have ambrosio rims as you can change a tyre with no levers.
    left the forum March 2023
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Bare hands... All my bikes have ambrosio rims as you can change a tyre with no levers.

    I'd like to see you try that in this case! @OP - are the tyres the standard Pro Race Nitros that Ribble tend to inflict on you? If so, some observations

    1) The Nitros seem to behave surprisingly well on the road
    2) Until they puncture which they do surprisingly easily
    3) And then they are absolute gits to get off the rims. In the end, I put a hole in the side of one of my tyres trying to get it on or off the rim.

    I don't know if the Rodis are particularly hard to get tyres off as well (though they aren't great wheels in plenty of other ways by all accounts) but if you are trying to get Nitros off then it's the tyre that's the problem rather than the lever.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • Yes it is the Nitros - however i've found after a few times having taken them off then get a bit easier....still damn difficult though.

    Are the Nitro's a cheap / poor tyre?
  • Chase the tyre around the rim first then insert the levers. It really does help a little bit.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • declan1
    declan1 Posts: 2,470
    Got some of these - http://bontrager.com/model/07799 - in Tiso yesterday for £3.50. I had a puncture today for some unknown reason when my bike was sitting still. Anyway, the levers are amazing. They fit right under the beads of the tyre, and just pull it off with no effort. Amazing.

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    I have no idea what's going on here.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    mjw123 wrote:
    Yes it is the Nitros - however i've found after a few times having taken them off then get a bit easier....still damn difficult though.

    Are the Nitro's a cheap / poor tyre?

    I thought they rode surprisingly well for what they are but they seemed to attract punctures - they are certainly cheap and the bike deserves better! If you get away without the punctures, then you might as well use them up but you are better off getting something like Schwalbe Duranos (or Continental equivalent) for about £20 each online (eg Highonbikes) - they will be lighter, grippier, more puncture resistant and much easier to get on and off the rim.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • The trick that not many try is to make sure the bead is in the well of the rim. Not just the bit of the bead that you're trying to get the lever under but the entire bead for that size of the tyre. Once you learn to do that then you'll only
    need short tyre levers, even for things like Schwalbe Marathons!