Edge500 and edge705

skaboy607

Hi

Sorry if this has been asked a 1000 times already, I did search for it but didn't find anything relating to my question which is.......

I would like to upgrade my cycling computer, currently have a polar cs200. The cs200 has done me well for 2 years but the issue I have with it is that it doesn't record values over the period of the ride, like instantaneous so you can focus of specific points. I also might got to power at some point in the future if I win the lottery so I've narrowed choices down to new edge 500 or a refurbished 705.

Does the 500 record and show data over the whole ride when you upload it on a graph,I know the 705 does as a mate had it.

Also I have found a refurbished 705 with cadence and hr for 200 quid but can only find new 500's which are 237 quid. I like the idea of the 500 being smaller and lasting longer, and not sure how much I need a map on the screen in front but am I silly to pay more for 500?

Thanks

lc1981

You can get a 500 for much cheaper than £237. I'm not sure if Handtec is the cheapest place, but they must be close - they have them for £141.60 or £185.88 with cadence and HRM.

skaboy607

Why is the red/black one so much more expensive?!

Anonymous

+1...!

StillGoing

Mapping facility is useful for events where there is a Gpx route you can download.

Gizmodo

skaboy607 wrote:

Does the 500 record and show data over the whole ride when you upload it on a graph,I know the 705 does as a mate had it.

Yes. The Garmin 500, 705, 800 all record your GPS location, speed and elevation at regular intervals (about 1 per second) throughout your ride. If you have additional ANT+ sensors then they also record heart rate, cadence and power. When you get back home you can connect them via USB cable to a PC or Laptop and upload the file to one of many web sites including Strava, Garmin Connect, RideWithGPS and many more. These give you maps, graphs and analysis of your ride (all free).

But you should also consider the Bryton Rider 35 and 40, both do the same job as the Garmin 500, or the Bryton Rider 50 which includes mapping like the Garmin 800.

skaboy607 wrote:

Also I have found a refurbished 705 with cadence and hr for 200 quid but can only find new 500's which are 237 quid. I like the idea of the 500 being smaller and lasting longer, and not sure how much I need a map on the screen in front but am I silly to pay more for 500?

Bryton Rider 35 - from £102
Bryton Rider 40 from £110
Garmin Edge 500 from £145
Bryton Rider 50 from £170
Garmin Edge 800 from £245

Mikey23

the 500 is an amazing bit of kit and does everything i could ask of it. i bought the basic model for £160 a few weeks ago. not sure if i need the heart rate and cadence stuff but i can get that later. i was concerned about the lack of navigational stuff but dont think i really have a use for all that. it does have a basic mapping facility which is not as intuitive as it might be. my best buy after the bike

Anonymous

Someone's selling those bits in the clasifieds!!

Still not sure why the other one is so expensive! The red black one

keef66

The red comes with the premium heart rate strap

nferrar

I have a 500 and a 705, 500 is much more like a normal cycling computer but you can follow a route on it (pretty low res and you just follow a black line rather than seeing a map but it's usually adequate), display is pretty small to but again just about adequate. The 705 is a fair bit bigger but has mapping, although even with City Navigator maps it's not massively easier to follow routes than on the 500, if you're not following a route and get lost it's also pretty hard to use it to find your way IME (certainly off-road you really need to be following a route rather than using it as a navigation device). The display is very clear though (better than the 800...) and easily readable. Only thing I really don't like about it is the mount as it's all to easy to break the tab off and that's £8 a time, the newer 500/800 mount is much better.
Both record the same data so on-line graphing capability is the same

patko

Gizmodo, thanks for the info and links.

Have or has anyone use both the Edge500 and Bryton 35 units?

I am looking for something that will

a. allow me to set training to heart rate zones, stay in hrz 2 for 10 mins then the unit tells me to push in hrz 3 for 5 mins etc etc.

b. Similar to above but for speed or power etc

c. Laps. I sometimes use the local park for training. Can I record laps so I know how I've done on each lap?

d. Laps again. Can I tell the unit what I want to achieve out of a lap? i.e. lap 1 stay between 18-20 mph, lap 2 stay
between 19-22 mph etc? same with hrz?

e. I've already got a heart rate strap from an old Garmin. Will these units connect ok?

f. Can I add a power device at a later stage if needed?

finally if I need to create a route say for a ride somewhere I'm not familiar with. Is it fairly easy to follow? Obviously
its not going to be like my car's navigation re turn by turn and I'm not expecting that level of navigation but having not had any experience with just following a black line without having turn by turn not sure if easy to follow?

I'm swaying towards the Edge500 at the moment but the Bryton looks a bit cheaper and might allow me to buy a few other things I dont really need

Thanks again.
Pete

Gizmodo wrote:

skaboy607 wrote:

Does the 500 record and show data over the whole ride when you upload it on a graph,I know the 705 does as a mate had it.

Yes. The Garmin 500, 705, 800 all record your GPS location, speed and elevation at regular intervals (about 1 per second) throughout your ride. If you have additional ANT+ sensors then they also record heart rate, cadence and power. When you get back home you can connect them via USB cable to a PC or Laptop and upload the file to one of many web sites including Strava, Garmin Connect, RideWithGPS and many more. These give you maps, graphs and analysis of your ride (all free).

But you should also consider the Bryton Rider 35 and 40, both do the same job as the Garmin 500, or the Bryton Rider 50 which includes mapping like the Garmin 800.

skaboy607 wrote:

Also I have found a refurbished 705 with cadence and hr for 200 quid but can only find new 500's which are 237 quid. I like the idea of the 500 being smaller and lasting longer, and not sure how much I need a map on the screen in front but am I silly to pay more for 500?

Bryton Rider 35 - from £102
Bryton Rider 40 from £110
Garmin Edge 500 from £145
Bryton Rider 50 from £170
Garmin Edge 800 from £245

StillGoing

A 705 does all that. As for following a route; just zoom in on the screen for detail. I recently did a 100 miler along an unknown route with some intricate turns. If I strayed off route the device is set to beep alerting me before I've gone too far past the junction. If I'm just following my nose and get lost, there's a feature that allows you to set a route home.

A Garmin 705/800 (not sure about the 500) can be set for various alerts; too high or low cadence, heart rate or speed. You can set a virtual partner for you to compete against when doing repeated routes and there is the facility to set intervals for time, speed or distance.

rolf_f

patko wrote:

Gizmodo, thanks for the info and links.

Have or has anyone use both the Edge500 and Bryton 35 units?

If you are considering a Bryton, go for the 40. It does everything you want and has training sessions pre programmed in (though you can add your own as well). It's a noticeably smaller and neater unit than either the 35 or Garmin 500; barely bigger than a conventional computer. Well worth the small additional cost.

patko

Thanks for the reply's guys. A great help.

At the moment I'm put off by the 705 as it's discontinued and a bit more money than the 500 or Bryton units.

I think what will swing it is the training modes on each. Although they look like both the Bryton 40 and Garmin 500 will do exactly the same things so it might end up coming down to what I can get the cheapest.

cheers

StillGoing

For 705 read 800 too. They're the same device other than touch screen on the 800.