Apex shifters/rear mech vs Red shifters/rear mech

Can anyone shed some light on the big differences in the two? I can either get new Apex stuff or second hand RED stuff for my roadbike. The Apex would work better due to a long complicated piece of man maths.
Question is how much "better" are the red parts over Apex? I already have a RED crankset and front mech so matching up would be nice, but as I say the Apex stuff would work out better and be brand new, which is always nice.
Opinions appreciated!
Question is how much "better" are the red parts over Apex? I already have a RED crankset and front mech so matching up would be nice, but as I say the Apex stuff would work out better and be brand new, which is always nice.
Opinions appreciated!
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Lighter and far far better precision in shifting.
Technologies found in Red will not appear in Apex for sometime.
You might be better with Force as imo it's only weight that comes between Red and Force.
these big dilemmas are a real pain :P
No contest.
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