Olympic event removal
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The problem is with dressage, it opens the door to basically every animal related sport out there...is that the route we want the Olympics to go down?
Anyway, Olympics is all down to money. Horse people have money. It aint going anywhere...0 -
Mad Doug Biker wrote:I agree that Parkour could be a sport though.
Isn't that some sort of jacket that mods wear?0 -
WheelieBad wrote:The problem is with dressage, it opens the door to basically every animal related sport out there...is that the route we want the Olympics to go down?
I think in this day and age that they wouldn't allow anything else animal related in. I agree that the horse events are a relic of the past, but boy, the horses look nice, so who cares?
Anyway, Olympics is all down to money. Horse people have money. It aint going anywhere...
Correct up to a certain point methinks.
An interesting comparison is rowing. People think that you need to have money to do that, but once you get away from the whole south of England Henley Twit and University image and go to many of the ordinary clubs up and down the country, you will find clubs that are not exactly flush and often have club houses that have clearly seen better days. Yes you could save up the thousands for your own Fine Shell (a boat), but you don't have to and simply use the club boats which have been bought using fundraising/grants etc instead.0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:Mad Doug Biker wrote:I agree that Parkour could be a sport though.
Isn't that some sort of jacket that mods wear?
Its the proper name for Free Running. It is a phenomenon which started in Paris seemingly.0 -
Mad Doug Biker wrote:Pross wrote:I would agree with dressage being removed. I would keep show jumping though and have a single event cross country instead of the 3 day event
A bit like the argument that nobody else uses the Velodrome, down at the showground, why would you need to get rid of anything at all? In fact, they could have a lot more events than they have!
Dressage and the, erm, horse dancing, like the other events is being able to control the horse perfectly. Just leave it be, it isn't getting in the way of anything!
I agree that Parkour could be a sport though.
I just don't like sports that are 'judged' even though some are among the most physical sports around (gymnastics). I'm a horsey person and often defend equestrian on here, I also went to watch the 3DE dressage (due to a cock up - thought I'd applied for XC tickets!) and enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. The problem in eventing is that if they don't get the time limit right in the XC phase the dressage can become disproportionately important in the result. Fortunately the course at Greenwich was perfectly judged though.
I'm happy for everything to stay as it is but the question was which events would you remove.0 -
Personally I'd remove nothing and just add more to the underused venues.
By the way, I am watching the Syncronised Swimming here and what the girls are doing really does need to be seen to be believed!
They are in a 3 meter deep pool and it is part of the rules that you can't touch the bottom, so all that lifting and airborne stuff must require amazing amounts of strength to do, and then of course, they all need to be perfectly Syncronised with the music, even though they are under the water half the time and can't actually hear it much.
The camera they have set up with it half in and under the water is probably the best view to what they are really doing. It really is gymnastics under the water.0 -
Mad Doug Biker wrote:greasedscotsman wrote:Mad Doug Biker wrote:I agree that Parkour could be a sport though.
Isn't that some sort of jacket that mods wear?
Its the proper name for Free Running. It is a phenomenon which started in Paris seemingly.
Woooosh !Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved0 -
MattC59 wrote:
WHOOOSH !
I don't know what people know, roit?0 -
Mad Doug Biker wrote:
Yes yes, very good, but that is why you need to train the horses with the very best temperament (and ability obviously) to do it, there will be distractions galore and the last thing you want is your horse to freak out at something, but nonetheless, it can still happen. Surely not every horse makes the grade, just like I'm sure not every horse could be a Police Horse or one of the ones used by the Household Cavalry etc etc.
It is still nonetheless a beautiful expression of man (or woman) and animal working together at the very highest level.
Police horses are highly trained - but they dont get to go in the olympics
Mad Doug Biker wrote:I have a 3 legged dog by the way!
Paralympic Sheep Dog trials entrant maybe??
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A few events could easily be combined.
Water polo and handball-in a paddling pool
Rythmic gymnastics-on the beam.
Javelin and the 100m dash-bound to produce new ORs.
Ditto archery and the 200m
Taekwondo,boxing,wrestling and fencing-one sport.Whats the solution? Just pedal faster you baby.
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Mad Doug Biker wrote:MattC59 wrote:
WHOOOSH !
I don't know what people know, roit?
Yeah, I did know what it was! Your not a teacher, are you? 0 -
Mad Doug Biker wrote:Sorry, just being new here, are *some of* you lot actually being serious about The Equestrian events?
I may not know much about them, but let me put it all into a bit of perspective for you:
A. They are the only events in the games where you are having to control an animal,
That's the problem right there. Surely the Olympics should be about human athletes. Sod the Gee Gees. Or if we are going to have animals, then let's have some proper bitey ones. Siberian Tiger Dressage for example. That would liven things up. bonus points awarded for finishing the round with all of your limbs still attached.0 -
adm1 wrote:bonus points awarded for finishing the round with all of your limbs still attached.
And for those that fail.............. well they get to enter the paralympics next time 0 -
I was looking down a list of the Olympic sports trying to think which I might like to have a go at, and waterpolo seems like a good candidate. I went online to find some equipment, but I can't seem to find anywhere that sells flippers and a snorkel for my horse.All the above is just advice .. you can do whatever the f*ck you wana do!
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Mad Doug Biker wrote:They are in a 3 meter deep pool and it is part of the rules that you can't touch the bottom, so all that lifting and airborne stuff must require amazing amounts of strength to do, and then of course, they all need to be perfectly Syncronised with the music, even though they are under the water half the time and can't actually hear it much.
Like shagging the wife then.Peter0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:Yeah, I did know what it was! Your not a teacher, are you?
I come from a teaching family, but It is something I doubt I'd really want to do these days, although, I did work in a special needs school for a while which I thoroughly enjoyed. :oops:DF33 wrote:Like shagging the wife then.
TMI!Police horses are highly trained - but they dont get to go in the olympics
They do if there is a riot!Paralympic Sheep Dog trials entrant maybe??
She'd just want to eat the sheep unfortunately.0 -
Mad Doug Biker wrote:greasedscotsman wrote:Yeah, I did know what it was! Your not a teacher, are you?
I come from a teaching family, but It is something I doubt I'd really want to do these days, although, I did work in a special needs school for a while which I thoroughly enjoyed. :oops:
I'm sorry, but I have to do it again............ Woooosh !!
(I think there was a touch of sarcasm in greasedscotsman's comment)Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
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Mad Doug Biker wrote:They are in a 3 meter deep pool and it is part of the rules that you can't touch the bottom, so all that lifting and airborne stuff must require amazing amounts of strength to do, and then of course, they all need to be perfectly Syncronised with the music, even though they are under the water half the time and can't actually hear it much.
The camera they have set up with it half in and under the water is probably the best view to what they are really doing. It really is gymnastics under the water.
It's still sh*t though !Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved0 -
adm1 wrote:Mad Doug Biker wrote:That's the problem right there. Surely the Olympics should be about human athletes.
Why?
It isn't like horse racing where they can be killed on inhuman courses (things like the Gr*nd Nat*onal really pisses me off beyond words and is something I'd either ban or seriously reform if I could). The simple fact is that by and large, all that running and jumping about is what a horse does anyway and if done properly they do enjoy it.
If it is all humane and the horse enjoys it, what's the problem?0 -
MattC59 wrote:Mad Doug Biker wrote:They are in a 3 meter deep pool and it is part of the rules that you can't touch the bottom, so all that lifting and airborne stuff must require amazing amounts of strength to do, and then of course, they all need to be perfectly Syncronised with the music, even though they are under the water half the time and can't actually hear it much.
The camera they have set up with it half in and under the water is probably the best view to what they are really doing. It really is gymnastics under the water.
It's still sh*t though !
I think football is sh*te too, opium for the great unwashed masses and all that*, but I don't want to ban it. In short, if it isn't in the way of any other event, then why worry?
* - Actually, the sport itself is ok, it is just the sh*te surrounding it I hate.0 -
MattC59 wrote:(I think there was a touch of sarcasm in greasedscotsman's comment)
Yes but I decided to ignore it and say what it was anyway, in case anyone here didn't know what it was, that's all. I have been here all of 5 mins, so you might have had wall to wall Parkour threads on here in the past for all I know! :?
Incidentally, I sounded like a supply teacher asking a class what they have been working on, I get it.
Anyway, whatever.0 -
CiB wrote:
WTF? Some of those comments are hilarious. A Texan's view on promiscuity versus Dave from Lancs:
.....it seems these days modesty and mutual/self respect is gone and it is all about doing what makes you feel good at the time..... - Mik, dallas, USA, 22/7/2012 04:46
Good luck to them. All that energy and staying power puts you right in the mood for "Doing the what comes naturally". Your only young once. Enjoy! - Dave, Lancs, 22/7/2012 09:110 -
What is the modern pentathlon all about? Seriously it is a pile of piss.0
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Mad Doug Biker wrote:adm1 wrote:Mad Doug Biker wrote:That's the problem right there. Surely the Olympics should be about human athletes.
Why?
It isn't like horse racing where they can be killed on inhuman courses (things like the Gr*nd Nat*onal really pisses me off beyond words and is something I'd either ban or seriously reform if I could). The simple fact is that by and large, all that running and jumping about is what a horse does anyway and if done properly they do enjoy it.
If it is all humane and the horse enjoys it, what's the problem?
Well...it's not really a problem, it's just that it's the horses that are the athletes, not the humans. If Zara Philips, and a bloke who broke his neck a few years ago can win gold, then surely it's the horses that are the stars. Which kind of goes against the whole point of the Olympics being an arena to showcase humans pushing themselves to the limits.
If the cycling had people riding powered, AI controlled bikes, then we might start to think it was more about the bike than the rider....0 -
adm1 wrote:
Well...it's not really a problem, it's just that it's the horses that are the athletes, not the humans. If Zara Philips, and a bloke who broke his neck a few years ago can win gold, then surely it's the horses that are the stars.
In F1 the cars should be the stars, not the idiots sat inside them.....Which kind of goes against the whole point of the Olympics being an arena to showcase humans pushing themselves to the limits.
If the cycling had people riding powered, AI controlled bikes, then we might start to think it was more about the bike than the rider....
But the rider needs to be able to control the horse. Yes, to be honest with you, the horse does need more recognition, but to ride around a course as quickly as you can whilst getting your horse to perform faultlessly is kind of pushing yourself, particularly when the alternative is falling off and, well, breaking your neck.0 -
I'm really looking forward to the skateboarding in Rio!0
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PeteMadoc wrote:I'm really looking forward to the skateboarding in Rio!
I'll settle for the Samba girls myself. :twisted:0 -
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What body decides how many events each sport has? I ask as there is an obvious comparison to be made between swimming and cycling.
There seems to be a medal for every stroke,distance,gender and relays aswell. Whereas cycling seems to be rationed as to its events wherby certain races have to be dropped in order to accomodate another, then there is the one nation one competitor rule on the track aswell.Tail end Charlie
The above post may contain traces of sarcasm or/and bullsh*t.0 -
Mad Doug Biker wrote:In F1 the cars should be the stars, not the idiots sat inside them.....
Which is why F1 is not an Olympic event.0
