Super C or Camper longflap saddlebag?

JamesB

Can anyone give advice on the better choice:

intended primarily for weekend / 4 day B&B riding but may also use at some point for lightweight camping (but maybe not this summer )
From what I can tell Super C is `boxier` whilst longflap camper can be extended to add capacity.

Would use with the Bagman support but removing rails and supporting on a rackbeam (Ti seatpost)

thanks

marcusjb

I use the Camper Longflap on occasion (mainly longer audax without drop-bags, where I need to carry 3 days of stuff or whatever).

I like it a lot.

I have friends who have the Super C - and it's good - but it's always big. And it is big!

The main advantage of the Camper Longflap is the long flap. In normal operation, the camper doesn't feel overly huge - but then using the flap, you can put jackets, tents (small ones) etc. under the flap. This also helps you prune your equipment - the Super C is massive and you'll just fill whatever space you have available with stuff you don't need.

So I vote Longflap.

Also - don't buy the Bagman support and remove the rails (I assume you need the support because you don't have saddle bag loops on your saddle?) - you can buy JUST the part you need without rails - for lots less money:

http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?pa ... duct_id=87

or

http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?pa ... duct_id=86

mercia_man

I can recommend the Camper Longflap, James. Like Marcus says, it's a reasonably compact size when flap is buttoned up and so doesn't flap around. But you've got a lot of room when it's opened.

I've used mine for week-long B&B touring with flap open and it's a perfect size. It's also great for buying groceries - for example, you can open the flap to carry a large plastic container of milk or large loaves. You feel the effect of the weight less than if you were using a couple of rear panniers - less of that tail wagging the dog feeling.

I'm considering using it for ultra-lightweight camping but I think I will have to leave out the cooking gear. I think there would be enough room for a lightweight tent, down sleeping bag, small sleeping mat such as Exped Synmat UL and just the basics of clothes and washing gear.

JamesB

Thanks both for these replies , longflap it will be; as for Bagman already have one but it is the standard (has been used with Barley saddlebag) so probably not enough `drop` on it, although I may try it before the rack beam

marcusjb

JamesB wrote:

Thanks both for these replies , longflap it will be; as for Bagman already have one but it is the standard (has been used with Barley saddlebag) so probably not enough `drop` on it, although I may try it before the rack beam

I use a Barley more often - and I run a bagman expedition support.

It fits both bags with the leather loops on the barley being let out a hole further than you'd run normally - but I have ridden a few thousand kms without any problems like that.

A Camper Longflap won't fit on a sport support (properly)

Hoopdriver

Both are brillant. I rather like the Super-C myself, although when taking more stuff the long flap of the Longflap does help to accomodate it. With the Bagman support get the QR version. It makes taking the bag off and putting it on again a doddle.