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10 or 11 speed ?

bradashbradash Posts: 12
edited August 2012 in Road buying advice
is the ware rate the same on 11spd as on 10.
i turn a big gear and fear for the thinner components

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  • Ber NardBer Nard Posts: 827
    In real terms there's no discernible difference from my experience. Assuming you're comparing Campag 10 speed with 11 speed, the 11 speed stuff is from higher up the range so will be better made and harder wearing.

    Andre Greipel rides 11 speed Campag. If it's strong enough for him, I don't think you need to worry.

    Rob
  • smidsysmidsy Posts: 5,273
    Ber Nard wrote:
    Andre Greipel rides 11 speed Campag. If it's strong enough for him, I don't think you need to worry. Rob

    Except he probably has new kit every race and we use it for 1000's of miles.

    The more speeds the less reliable in my experience. I am still on 9 speed.
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • Wirral_paulWirral_paul Posts: 2,476
    I'm using Campag 11 speed on one bike and Sram 10 speed on my winter bike. No problems with either - and no discernible extra wear on the 11 speed. I'm no lightweight and a reasonably strong club rider
  • marcusjbmarcusjb Posts: 2,412
    Ber Nard wrote:

    the 11 speed stuff is from higher up the range so will be better made and harder wearing.

    Andre Greipel rides 11 speed Campag. If it's strong enough for him, I don't think you need to worry.

    In general, I would say this (the first part) is not true - higher up the range does not generally equate with harder wearing - in fact, the opposite may well be true. A top-end component is designed for weight over and above durability, so may well use materials that are far less resilient than those used in lower end components.

    A pro is clearly far stronger and harder on equipment than you or I - but they have dedicated mechanics setting up and cleaning their bikes every day and have access to replacement components on a far more regular basis than you or I (I wouldn't be surprised if chains were changed almost daily - anyone know the real data?). So a pro doesn't care about durability (as long as it lasts 200km for the day!) - and Shimano and Campagnolo really wants you and I riding high-end groupsets so they can sell us replacement chains etc. on a regular basis. I guarantee that a 7-speed Tourney rear mech and chain setup will outlast a Dura-Ace setup several times over!

    There were also a far higher instance of broken chains on the Tour than I remember in the past suggesting that 11 speed may well be 1 speed too far.
    Stuff about riding a bike a long way
  • Wirral_paulWirral_paul Posts: 2,476
    marcusjb wrote:
    There were also a far higher instance of broken chains on the Tour than I remember in the past suggesting that 11 speed may well be 1 speed too far.

    I thought only Campag are running 11 speed at the moment, or did the Shimano teams use the recently announced 2013 11 speed Dura-Ace in the Tour??
  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 79,667
    Paul - they had the 2013 DA9000 wheelsets, not sure about gears though
  • Wirral_paulWirral_paul Posts: 2,476
    coriordan wrote:
    Paul - they had the 2013 DA9000 wheelsets, not sure about gears though

    Cheers for that. A quick search says DA9000 wheels with a spacer will allow 10spd cassettes so could be either.
  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 79,667
    I think there is a snap somewhere of Brad's rear dinner plate for the climbing...might be able to count there....
  • slowondefy2slowondefy2 Posts: 348
    bradash wrote:
    i turn a big gear and fear for the thinner components

    Counter-intuitively, it's a lower/easier gear that puts more strain on the drivetrain.

    Sheldon Brown said so.
  • mjbennettmjbennett Posts: 532
    Got a great idea for the future of cycling. 12 speed.....
  • ajb72ajb72 Posts: 1,178
    [/quote]
    There were also a far higher instance of broken chains on the Tour than I remember in the past suggesting that 11 speed may well be 1 speed too far.[/quote]

    You sure that's not down to electronic shifting? Seemed to be more jammed chains than broken chains to me?
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