Google glass for biking?

nickride

Have you all seen what Google has came out with? I m wandering if there could be any use when i m road biking, having real time data right in front of the eye could really change the way of analysing data!

team47b

nickride wrote:

Have you all seen what Google has came out with?

No, where do I search?

lucasf09

Yes, it will be awesome...... in 2014 when it is actually released.

Team 47b, google "google glasses" and you will be flooded with reports, but for brief look: http://www.techradar.com/news/video/pro ... ow-1078114

In 2013 its going to be released to developers, but won't be available to consumers until 2014 . However I am pleased that those Apple junkies won't be able to join the fun, Android only

biscuit959

Yeah it could work for cycling - with navigation and strava-esque split times and stuff I guess.

Tbh in general, I think it'll either be absolutely huge or a massive flop. But I think its more just a R&D exercise tbh to see what they can do.

And gotta agree with lucas - glad that all the crapple fans will be kept in the dark with it

DavidJB

Real time power and HR feedback without having to look at your computer. Awesome.

MattC59

lucasf09 wrote:

Team 47b, google "google glasses" and you will be flooded with reports

Woooosh !

Silly Old Hector

nickride wrote:

Have you all seen what Google has came out with? I m wandering if there could be any use when i m road biking, having real time data right in front of the eye could really change the way of analysing data!

The ideas on show in the advert will always be more mundane that what people will do in reality. Basically the guy went to a book shop and had a coffee - mmmm exciting !

But don't get me wrong - if this goes the right way in development, this will be massively popular. Glasses with built in Garmin ....

Until it rains.... ;-)

smidsy

Do yer think people who obsess with these type of stats and use a garmin go out in the rain??? :shock: 8)

Silly Old Hector

smidsy wrote:

Do yer think people who obsess with these type of stats and use a garmin go out in the rain??? :shock: 8)

Good point, but being a MAMIL and having more desire than capability, I need to watch my heart rate and how slow I'm going this time

team47b

lucasf09 wrote:

Yes, it will be awesome...... in 2014 when it is actually released.

Team 47b, google "google glasses" and you will be flooded with reports, but for brief look: http://www.techradar.com/news/video/pro ... ow-1078114

In 2013 its going to be released to developers, but won't be available to consumers until 2014 . However I am pleased that those Apple junkies won't be able to join the fun, Android only

I thought it was something new you were talking about, do you honestly believe us Apple junkies will miss out?

'Apple’s patents, filed in 2006, suggest that the company has been interested in this technology for a considerable time.'

nickride

Silly Old Hector wrote:

smidsy wrote:

Do yer think people who obsess with these type of stats and use a garmin go out in the rain??? :shock: 8)

Good point, but being a MAMIL and having more desire than capability, I need to watch my heart rate and how slow I'm going this time

You guys dont think it would be a difficult or just dangerous to look at the data while riding fast? :?:

biscuit959

nickride wrote:

You guys dont think it would be a difficult or just dangerous to look at the data while riding fast? :?:

I think it would be in the corner of your vision, so it wouldn't be overlayed entirely over what you can see and you would have to want to look at it.

team47b wrote:

I thought it was something new you were talking about, do you honestly believe us Apple junkies will miss out?

'Apple’s patents, filed in 2006, suggest that the company has been interested in this technology for a considerable time.'

Not sure, Google will obviously want as many people as possible to use it (more people equals more adverts equals more money) but then they also want more people to use android. So, probably, it will just be for android as the two companies don't really get on that well lol.
Unlikely I'd say at the moment that Apple would do their own version tbh - they might buy a company who do something similar and call it Apple, like they did with maps. Think they're gonna go more into hardware in the next couple of years.

Silly Old Hector

nickride wrote:

Silly Old Hector wrote:

smidsy wrote:

Do yer think people who obsess with these type of stats and use a garmin go out in the rain??? :shock: 8)

Good point, but being a MAMIL and having more desire than capability, I need to watch my heart rate and how slow I'm going this time

You guys dont think it would be a difficult or just dangerous to look at the data while riding fast? :?:

I'm thinking more about up hills and maybe checks on the flat - I generally only look down to my computer when it's quieter (cycling wise).

nickride

they probably will come out with some new feature too, something like a ghost time feature or some workout social sharing or a new type of navigation tool in and outside the city

pe60t0

Just wanted to remove this thread from the dust. Now that we have more information about Google glass, what are you people thinking ? I find it pretty cool and think it will be quite useful for both road and mountain biking.

goonz

Yes but will the spces have the sufficient UV protection that Oakley can give my poor eyes?

ad_snow

They are teaming up with normal/proper eyewear manufacturers already so I'm sure there will be a sunglasses equivalent out sooner or later. Ages ago it was said that Oakley were making their own version of this tech to rival Project Glass but I've not heard anything about it recently? If it flopped and died then I expect Google will extend them an olive branch to get their product to the masses.

AchillesLeftKnee

pe60t0 wrote:

Just wanted to remove this thread from the dust. Now that we have more information about Google glass, what are you people thinking ? I find it pretty cool and think it will be quite useful for both road and mountain biking.

As a programmer with involvement in mobile apps, Glass scares seven shades of solids out of me. The possibility of always-on sound and video capture in a device that can be used passively and knows its location offers opportunities for privacy invasion that I personally find completely unacceptable. It'll be interesting to see what happens with regard to Glass, but I strongly suspect it'll end up being the catalyst for governments to start taking the issue of online privacy seriously.

houston26

The prototype ones that have been sent out have had some bad reviews, and I would personally hate to see cyclists using them, a very dangerous distraction, cos you can bet some idiot will be trying to watch a film on his or her commute

pe60t0

AchillesLeftKnee wrote:

pe60t0 wrote:

Just wanted to remove this thread from the dust. Now that we have more information about Google glass, what are you people thinking ? I find it pretty cool and think it will be quite useful for both road and mountain biking.

As a programmer with involvement in mobile apps, Glass scares seven shades of solids out of me. The possibility of always-on sound and video capture in a device that can be used passively and knows its location offers opportunities for privacy invasion that I personally find completely unacceptable. It'll be interesting to see what happens with regard to Glass, but I strongly suspect it'll end up being the catalyst for governments to start taking the issue of online privacy seriously.

So how does it make it different from the smartphones that we already have in our pockets as well as the CCTV that takes videos/photos of you pretty much everywhere ?

ad_snow

pe60t0 wrote:

AchillesLeftKnee wrote:

pe60t0 wrote:

Just wanted to remove this thread from the dust. Now that we have more information about Google glass, what are you people thinking ? I find it pretty cool and think it will be quite useful for both road and mountain biking.

As a programmer with involvement in mobile apps, Glass scares seven shades of solids out of me. The possibility of always-on sound and video capture in a device that can be used passively and knows its location offers opportunities for privacy invasion that I personally find completely unacceptable. It'll be interesting to see what happens with regard to Glass, but I strongly suspect it'll end up being the catalyst for governments to start taking the issue of online privacy seriously.

So how does it make it different from the smartphones that we already have in our pockets as well as the CCTV that takes videos/photos of you pretty much everywhere ?

Because when your phone is in your pocket/on a table etc at home/in the office if someone "hacked" into the camera all they would see is darkness... whereas if you were wearing Glass and someone managed to operate it remotely they would see what you see.... perhaps at your desk looking at confidential information or at home playing with your children.... things you wouldn't want others to see and they wouldn't normally be able to through phones/cctv.

pe60t0

Fair point, but I hope that Google are taking security seriously and won't be easy to hack that thing.

AchillesLeftKnee

pe60t0 wrote:

So how does it make it different from the smartphones that we already have in our pockets as well as the CCTV that takes videos/photos of you pretty much everywhere ?

So, how does this sound for a bit of cool functionality...

Facial recognition is, these days, pretty common and reliable technology. If, for example, I had access to the output of all the CCTV cameras in Guildford...

It would not be rocket science to develop a system that, given a reasonable reference photo or two, could track down someone who was out in town. Want to find your ex when she's out in town? Sure, we'll find her. What about that girl you took a photo of last night, who told you to **** off? Yeah, we'll find her, so you can go and try it on again. Fancy going out for a few beers with your mates? Cool, go for it, but don't do anything you wouldn't want your boss to see you doing because, hey, they may well be watching.

Of course, this is all just pie in the sky because there's no large scale, publicly available CCTV system in Guildford, so I can't offer that service. Doing something with the odd camera might be on, but it would be so limited as to be useless - "Did my ex walk past the White House pub?" isn't much good for stalking.

Enter Google Glass...

Hmm, well, now things are a bit different. All of a sudden we've got a combination of little cameras linked to internet-connected devices with a fair bit of processing power. All that's required to make use of that potentially hugely comprehensive mobile CCTV network is to persuade users to install an app.

So, how do we do this, and how would the system work?

The customer looking to locate someone would need to pay - let's say £2 per location attempt. Each location attempt would last, say, 24 hours, and be limited to an area within, say, 15 miles of a set point. For this, they'll get the first two images captured of their target, together with a location and time stamp.

The capture system would be offered as an app to Glass users. The app would be free, and the incentive for installing and running it would that the Glass wearer would be paid, say, 50p per capture.

How would the glass user's night out in town work? Well, they fire up the tracking app, enable location services and an internet connection. Once a location is established, some (or all, depending on numbers) of the facial recognition data that's been requested by customers for the glass wearers area is plucked from the service's servers by the app. Glass than takes a still at an interval set by the user (say, every 2 mins), and facial recognition is performed on these images on the phone in an attempt to find one of the targets. Once a target is found, the service server is notified and sent the relevant picture along with the location and time. The glass wearer is credited with 50p, the customer gets the pic, time and location for their target.

And here's what makes it scary...

All the Glass wearer has to do is walk around wearing the device, going about their normal business, picking up small payments, using a system that could be knocked together by a small team (or individual) with experience in facial recognition in very short order.

Oh, and the company running it will probably end up making about 20p per capture. That's potentially very lucrative indeed!

(Yeah, you could technically do this with phones, but expecting people to walk around with their phone out, capturing constant pics is unreasonable, and is likely to offend people eventually.)

AchillesLeftKnee

pe60t0 wrote:

Fair point, but I hope that Google are taking security seriously and won't be easy to hack that thing.

Who said anything about needing to hack it?

Bar Shaker

A friend in the business told me that the security services ability to passively use our smartphones is way beyond what we are told and what we would find acceptable.

The gps records from phones and from car satnavs is now used to place suspects at crime scenes. Recording calls is routine but how you you feel if your phone could act as a microphone/recording device when it was in your pocket?

I have no proof, only someone's say so, but is senior in networks for O2.

I am concerned about how much personal info is available to government forces, but don't see a way of stopping their access, short of living an Amish lifestyle. I just try and not do anything illegal, so staying below their radar.

Would I buy Google Glass? Hell yeah!!!

phil_smeeth

Oakley make goggles with a HUD

http://uk.oakley.com/airwave

teisetrotter

By the time our kids have grown, smartphones will be as defunct as a type writer. Amazing really.

Although I have to say IBM came up with a mock walk PC. It had a tiny plasma eye screen so engineers could see diagrams and it had a sim so they could talk through what they were seeing. It was all a demo and very flakey, but it was there some 10 years ago.

It'll take Google or Apple to bring it to the masses though.

passout

I hate the idea. When I'm cycling it's me vs my best time, a certain hill or maybe another rider or maybe me just enjoying the outdoors. I don't want to be connected to the world. I don't even take my mobile half the time and only have a small basic computer.

For me cycling is enough, it doesn't need consumerisitc clutter.