Bikes over 1000 grams.. Problem?

jcotsell
jcotsell Posts: 2
edited July 2012 in Road buying advice
Looking at getting Planet x N2a.. however just saw that frame weight is 1200 grams.. is this a problem maybe for hills or other ?

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  • bigpikle
    bigpikle Posts: 1,690
    If you weigh perhaps 70,000 - 90,000g plus the weight of all the accessories, do you think those 200g will really make a difference?
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    My croix de fer is the weight of a small moon. It's a few minutes slower over 20 miles. On relaxed rides it's no slower.
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  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Have a cr@p before your ride and see if that makes a difference?
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  • iPete
    iPete Posts: 6,076
    Take a drill to the frame and add a few holes, Swiss cheese style, should get it down to an acceptable weight, it won't go uphill otherwise.
  • jomoj
    jomoj Posts: 777
    What stupid suggestions. Everyone knows that filling your tubes with helium is the most effective way to add negative weight to your bike.
  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    Jomoj - I thought it was riding with bigger tyres to have more air in them? That's why MTB have such big tyres? Helium makes your bike squeaky....
  • fleshtuxedo
    fleshtuxedo Posts: 1,857
    Welcome to the forum
  • biscuit959
    biscuit959 Posts: 111
    jcotsell wrote:
    is this a problem maybe for hills or other ?

    Why would the hills care what frame you're using? :P
  • Cornish-J
    Cornish-J Posts: 978
    Welcome to the forum

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  • mattmaximus
    mattmaximus Posts: 132
    jcotsell wrote:
    Looking at getting Planet x N2a.. however just saw that frame weight is 1200 grams.. is this a problem maybe for hills or other ?

    Interesting - on one page they claim the weight of a large frame to be 950g, on another the weight of a medium to be 1240g. It may be that the second weight is inclusive of the seatpost (though that seems a little heavy) or the forks (though that seems light!). Either way, if they're claiming that their SRAM red build is 7.0kg, you're looking at a very light bike indeed. You wouldn't need to worry for a moment about it holding you back on the hills.
  • I wouldn't worry too much about 200g, just offset it by removing some unnecessary weight elsewhere.

    If you're going uphill you're not going to need brakes, removing those will save some weight. You'll probably be out of your saddle a lot (you'll need to be with such a heavy frame), so you might as well lose that too.

    Problem solved.
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,471
    Actually, there aren't all that many frames (other than the really high-end cannondale super evos, Cervelo S5s etc) that weight very much less than 1200 in reality (as opposed to in the catalogues) once you include paint, derailleur hanger, cable stops, bottom bracket shells etc etc... You can still easily build a sub 6.8kg bike with a frame of that weight with careful selection of components. Also, until you pay silly money a really light frame is likely not to be very stiff. In the price range you are looking at you will gain more from a bit of extra stiffness than you will from saving 200g.
  • limoneboy
    limoneboy Posts: 480
    you can spend £1000s trying to get a lighter frame as neeb has mention , in reality light is not always better, in my experience the way the frame feels on decents and when pushing it on the flat is wear it counts stiff but comfy ,hard to find but much more important than 200g. i wouldnt worry so much about it to much cause if your like me things on your bike will change at an alarming rate once you start riding alot , in that i mean parts (ooooooooooh that seats 30g lighter gotta have it ) :)
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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    I've an N2A and its a nice bike. Mines pretty fast uphill, but it mainly depends on the rider.

    Nice deep tubes too so all the power seems to go towards speed - nothings wasted.
  • DavidJB
    DavidJB Posts: 2,019
    I wouldn't buy a 1200gram frame.
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    My frame weighs 1310g, but the bike is under 7.5kg w/ midrange components. As Neeb says, getting the bike lighter is easy enough. It's your legs and gearing that will have more impact on climbing than the frame weight.
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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    DavidJB wrote:
    I wouldn't buy a 1200gram frame.

    What do you ride ?
  • acidstrato
    acidstrato Posts: 945
    funniest reply award on page 1 goes to biscuit959 for his quick witty comment

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  • on-yer-bike
    on-yer-bike Posts: 2,974
    I dont think any Colnago frames weigh less than 1200 g as they don't believe in making frames that are too light. I have a steel framed bike that weighs 8 kg and the frame weighs 1800 g, Ive had no complaints from the hills so far.
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