Obree's latest

frenchfighter
frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
edited July 2012 in Pro race

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  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    When I'd seen it being built I wondered how he was going to pedal it with the chainset there. I would never have guessed the solution would be enormous crazy looking cranks!

    Wouldn't having the chainset down the other end have enabled a simpler chain line solution without the need for the crazy cranks? Or does the dual chain system allow a much bigger gear?
  • peterst6906
    peterst6906 Posts: 530
    Even for Obree, that's strange.

    Looks like a forward lying position and I guess this is his current design for his attempt on the speed record.
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    Even for Obree, that's strange.

    Looks like a forward lying position and I guess this is his current design for his attempt on the speed record.
    It will have an aero fairing when he makes the attempt. I've seen land speed record recumbents like this before where the rider lies flat on his back and travels head first. They use a mirror built into the fairing so they can see where they're going! Obree's position actually seems quite sensible by comparison
  • BillyMansell
    BillyMansell Posts: 817
    I love the guys Heath-Robinson approach to engineering.

    That is a completely new take on the double reduction system - Genius! It's what I love about the inventiveness of British engineering.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Video. Seriously odd...

    http://vimeo.com/45034602
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  • rubertoe
    rubertoe Posts: 3,994
    Obree is very mental.
    "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got."

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Ha, the seafront at Saltcoats. :)

    Used to go to Metropolis nightclub there in the 90's, think there was also a good bar in the high st called Houlihans or something smilar.
  • mercsport
    mercsport Posts: 664
    I'll post an observation of frenchfighter's great post about our celtic genius just to keep this up on the first page.

    Whatever contrivance GB has ever made has always looked really uncomfortable to me but there's no denying the fact that they've always worked, so far as I know. The face-forward body position, c of g above the wheels and articulated pedal affair that he's knocked up doesn't look half as efficient as Sam Whittingham's between wheels recliner. When it becomes faired-in will its frontal area be more or less than Whittingham's? Heavier - lighter? And so on.

    I know, without a doubt GB will have thought through all of this. He's reliable. Hope he cracks the LSR.
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  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    Video. Seriously odd...

    http://vimeo.com/45034602

    Thanks for the link. Nutty as a fruitcake but you've got to love him.


    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • top_bhoy
    top_bhoy Posts: 1,424
    rubertoe wrote:
    Obree is very mental.

    Sorry rubertoe, an inappropriate choice of words to describe one of the UKs best ever cyclist!!

    Many laughed at his 'Old Faithful' bike and positions but he had the last laugh - at least until British and World Cycling plotted against him. ThIS latest 'bike' may not end up as the finished design but with his track record, it would be a brave man to dismiss his prototypes. I wish him well in his efforts.

    It's good to see Graeme Obree out and about trying out his ideas with a laugh and a smile. That in itself is a success given where he was a few short years ago.

    Next time I'm back, I'll be looking out for low flying cyclists along Saltcoats prom!! If I ask nicely maybe he would even have a cycle with me :D
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    Oopps' meant no offense with my choice of language, specially as someone who has suffered from anxiety and had a depressive mother. Just for the record his eccentricity is much admired and I genuinely hope he succeeds.


    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • MrTapir
    MrTapir Posts: 1,206
    Graeme Obree is fantastic. That pedal system is a work of art.
  • rubertoe
    rubertoe Posts: 3,994
    Maybe my choice of words were not great.

    He clearly has a touch of genius about him no doubt about it; as is evidenced by "old faithfull" and i have no doubt that this project will be no less successful than that.
    "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got."

    PX Kaffenback 2 = Work Horse
    B-Twin Alur 700 = Sundays and Hills
  • Here's another good video about the project, posted by the same person as the one above: http://vimeo.com/33987967. It's quite entertaining.
  • mercsport
    mercsport Posts: 664
    Here's another good video about the project, posted by the same person as the one above: http://vimeo.com/33987967. It's quite entertaining.

    That was brilliant. Well, nearly, I was just settling in and then it finished! A swift nine minutes.

    I'm agog for the outcome in the USA, whenever that might be. I think he has more hope of pulling it off than that Olympic gold medallist (whose name quite escapes me) and the overpriced Lotus (was it?) bike that was brilliant at falling over.

    Thanks for posting that. :D
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  • cyclopath
    cyclopath Posts: 71
    Top_Bhoy wrote:
    rubertoe wrote:
    Obree is very mental.

    Sorry rubertoe, an inappropriate choice of words to describe the UK's best ever cyclist!!

    Many laughed at his 'Old Faithful' bike and positions but he had the last laugh - at least until British and World Cycling plotted against him. ThIS latest 'bike' may not end up as the finished design but with his track record, it would be a brave man to dismiss his prototypes. I wish him well in his efforts.

    It's good to see Graeme Obree out and about trying out his ideas with a laugh and a smile. That in itself is a success given where he was a few short years ago.

    Next time I'm back, I'll be looking out for low flying cyclists along Saltcoats prom!! If I ask nicely maybe he would even have a cycle with me :D

    Edited to ensure accuracy. IMO :)
  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    I don't get the forward position - surely lying on your chest will really restrict your breathing capacity.
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  • Daz555 wrote:
    I don't get the forward position - surely lying on your chest will really restrict your breathing capacity.

    From what I can gather he's actually going to be resting on his shoulders and his hips. I'd have thought that the hip support would interfere with his legs and/or diaphragm, but I assume he knows more about bike building and ergonomics than I do!

    His pedalling motion is pretty unusual too- in that he just pushes down on the long pedal things and pulls up on them- supposedly with no dead spot, so his legs are working hard all the time (I suspect I haven't really explained this very well I'm afraid). I did read somewhere that this is generally a bad idea, as the ratio of muscle contraction/relaxation using the standard pedalling motion was already pretty much ideal for the best muscle performance.

    Still, this is Graeme Obree, the only man Jens Voigt calls 'sir'*, so I'm not going to argue with him.

    *Probably not true, but a 'Graeme Obree Facts' would be fun, wouldn't it?
  • mercsport
    mercsport Posts: 664
    edited July 2012
    Thought to revive this thread as a diversion away from Wiggo, Cav and the rest in their hour of glory (well done lads! hope there's more to come) for those, like me, slightly befuddled at the moment by all the cycling riches appearing to be happening all at once here for Britain. :shock:

    Tooling about last night I delved a little more deeply into GO's website: http://www.obree.com/about.php and discovered further stuff worthy of attention for those of us agog at the idea of GO's prospects for his attempt on the HPV Land Speed Record. It was a rewarding click-around. The link to this this site is worthy of our attention: http://www.humansinvent.com/#!/6131/ret ... eme-obree/ and has some fresh -to me- Vimeo vid's on GO. (Revving-up on his kitchen table the gear train and ultimately the 320 inch gear he'll use is a sight to behold: http://goo.gl/Nn2GO :D ). Also the vid' on GO's take on breathing is fascinating.

    And so on.. got to go.

    Edit: Some Dutch (Bos's brother) HPV competition: http://tinyurl.com/d6q8cxw looks very tidy.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,651
    Legend. Hero. Love him to bits.
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  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    Brilliant bloke - done well to survive all the shit that's been thrown at him.