Team GB Olympic Road Race Team

derbygrimpeur

Might it be so that Froome can do early work in the RR and then drop out, whereas Millar can bury himself later in the race and do one of his massive turns for the sake of Cav. That way it then gives Froome more recovery before the TT.

fungus_the_muffin_man

ToeKnee wrote:

LeicesterLad wrote:

Millar Served his cycling ban and has since shown remorse where others havn't.

His lifetime Olympic ban has been proven to be unworkable and unlawful. Those are the facts.

He is simply the best man for the team, super domestique, friend, training partner to Cavendish. There is no younger rider with better capabilities. If you want to win a medal, you pick your best team. Millar has shown more than his worth (thinking of the Worlds here)

There have been plenty of arguments as to why Millar shouldn't be riding, none of them seem to carry much weight beyond personal opinion.

I am happy for him to earn a living on the cycling circuit. As you say, he has shown remorse.
I believe that the lifetime Olympic ban should never have been lifted - it's one event every four years. Sadly laws have been put in place preventing this ban.
Yes, it is personal opinion but based on morals - something the country, to it's detriment, has lost.

Please explain why it is morally wrong? What have morals got to do with competitive sport?

You must live in a hard world where people are never forgiven for doing wrong and are not allowed to redeem themselves for it. Unlike chambers, Miller will be a support player with no chance of winning a medal or glory. He will be burying himself to help a fellow team-mate and cyclist to win the medal and glory. What greater sacrifice would you like from the man? Isn't this actually the greatest way to repent for past misdemeanour's? By giving forth such a selfless act?

If you want morals in sport then there you go that's a perfect moral high ground to take.

Also why should Cav have to suffer and lose your support in his bid for gold? He doesn't deserve that. He doesn't decide who his team mates are. What do you want him to do? Refuse to ride alongside Miller? After all the hard work he's put into his preperation? If you honestly think he should then your a moron and need to get yourself back into the real world.

k-dog

This is all fine until Dave makes a break for it and wins - then there will be an uproar.

Unlikely I know, but crazy things can happen.

RichN95.

Strange goings on with the French team. They've named a track sprinter (Bourgain) with no road experience in their road race team. They've done this to exploit a loophole in the rules that will allow him to also be part of the team sprint squad, boosting it from three to four. I'm not sure what the roads think of this. The Germans have done a similar thing and named a track sprinter in their MTB team.

markyboy2005

RichN95 wrote:

Strange goings on with the French team. They've named a track sprinter (Bourgain) with no road experience in their road race team. They've done this to exploit a loophole in the rules that will allow him to also be part of the team sprint squad, boosting it from three to four. I'm not sure what the roads think of this. The Germans have done a similar thing and named a track sprinter in their MTB team.

That is Morally wrong.....

Yellow Peril

RichN95 wrote:

Strange goings on with the French team. They've named a track sprinter (Bourgain) with no road experience in their road race team. They've done this to exploit a loophole in the rules that will allow him to also be part of the team sprint squad, boosting it from three to four. I'm not sure what the roads think of this. The Germans have done a similar thing and named a track sprinter in their MTB team.

Now that's clever and probably the reason why both France and Germany have a car industry and we don't.

fungus_the_muffin_man

markyboy2005 wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

Strange goings on with the French team. They've named a track sprinter (Bourgain) with no road experience in their road race team. They've done this to exploit a loophole in the rules that will allow him to also be part of the team sprint squad, boosting it from three to four. I'm not sure what the roads think of this. The Germans have done a similar thing and named a track sprinter in their MTB team.

That is Morally wrong.....

I agree and would like to retract my earlier statement

Pross

Bourgain to successfully sit in the bunch 9 times over Box and then outsprint Cav Do the riders in question have to at least start the road / MTB events for which they have been selected?

graeme_s-2

Pross wrote:

Bourgain to successfully sit in the bunch 9 times over Box and then outsprint Cav Do the riders in question have to at least start the road / MTB events for which they have been selected?

I can't wait to see a track sprinter contest a MTB race!

frenchfighter

Interesting goings on in the selection of the Irish team:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12341 ... ppeal.aspx

frenchfighter

So four of these are riding the Tour and they have each one a stage! Impressive.

Crozza

frenchfighter wrote:

So four of these are riding the Tour and they have each one a stage! Impressive.

haha

"MC: One day I'm gonna be a professional bike racer, and be World Champion.
DM: Sure you are kid, sure you are"

Yellow Peril

frenchfighter wrote:

Interesting goings on in the selection of the Irish team:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12341 ... ppeal.aspx

I think a team put together by an order of court or arbitration is doomed to failure before it turns a wheel. Obviously a lack of detail in that article as to why Brammeier was left out but for the sake of team harmony he should take it on the chin.

Not a bad three man team really. I assume McCann will be TT'ing as well?

jim453

ToeKnee wrote:

Well I'll be hoping Cav does not win the RR ... and that anything Chambers is associated with fails too ... the later being a near certainty anyway.

I really like Dwain Chambers. I think he's been to hell and back over this PED issue. He's shown an immense amount of courage to keep going in the face of some very adverse and unpleasant conditions. I'm sure if he could change things he would never have made the mistake in the first place. He's done his time and can legally compete. Good. He made a mistake as a young man, who hasn't. He won't win a medal but he's still the best sprinter we've got.

Daz555

k-dog wrote:

This is all fine until Dave makes a break for it and wins - then there will be an uproar.

Unlikely I know, but crazy things can happen.

Crazy things yes, but not impossible things.