new tyres, NEED HELP

Nelson56

hi people not been on in a while been riding some local trails and my tyres are now getting really bald and wanting new ones, im thinking about getting Muddy Mary ( http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires ... muddy_mary )
my friend has them but im not sure if they are good or not. Need help.

waby1234

Is the question are they good, or good for a price?

Nelson56

both really

nicklouse

what are you going to put them on?

ilovedirt

What are you planning on riding?

Nelson56

nicklouse wrote:

what are you going to put them on?

specialized hardrock disc 2012

Nelson56

ilovedirt wrote:

What are you planning on riding?

eh its like mud, tree roots, and rocks

.blitz

Muddy Marys are most excellent but with all due respect probably not the best choice for your Hardrock. Mary's aren't mud tyres as such they are like a more modern version of a Maxxis Minion

The 2.5 Vertstars grip all the time, everywhere, but you won't be going anywhere fast unless it's downhill. They are draggy as hell on the flat and your Hardrock will wonder WTF is going on with +2kg of tyres. The Trailstar folders are noticeably lighter but they are still aimed at maximum gnar-tech when you stop pedalling your bike will stop. Schwalbe's Big Bettys are similar and intended for dry, rocky terrain but personally I find the Vertstars so grippy they work well on pretty much everything wet/dry/loose/hardpack it makes no difference.

Alternatively, the bigger Nobby Nics are pretty good the 2.4 Snakeskin is tough and grippy but rolls quite well for a tyre of its size and it's not too heavy. High Roller 2 is not too shabby either it works well with a CrossMark on the back or your could go for folding 60a Minions they are lightish at 800g or thereabouts and roll well for aggressive tyres but again perhaps slightly OTT for a Hardrock.

If you are willing to sacrifice some grip for speed have a look at Maxxis Advantage/Ardent

nicklouse

as above totally the wrong tyre.

Nelson56

.blitz wrote:

Muddy Marys are most excellent but with all due respect probably not the best choice for your Hardrock. Mary's aren't mud tyres as such they are like a more modern version of a Maxxis Minion

The 2.5 Vertstars grip all the time, everywhere, but you won't be going anywhere fast unless it's downhill. They are draggy as hell on the flat and your Hardrock will wonder WTF is going on with +2kg of tyres. The Trailstar folders are noticeably lighter but they are still aimed at maximum gnar-tech when you stop pedalling your bike will stop. Schwalbe's Big Bettys are similar and intended for dry, rocky terrain but personally I find the Vertstars so grippy they work well on pretty much everything wet/dry/loose/hardpack it makes no difference.

Alternatively, the bigger Nobby Nics are pretty good the 2.4 Snakeskin is tough and grippy but rolls quite well for a tyre of its size and it's not too heavy. High Roller 2 is not too shabby either it works well with a CrossMark on the back or your could go for folding 60a Minions they are lightish at 800g or thereabouts and roll well for aggressive tyres but again perhaps slightly OTT for a Hardrock.

If you are willing to sacrifice some grip for speed have a look at Maxxis Advantage/Ardent

thanks i think im going to get the maxxis Ardent 3C DH Tyre http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/produ ... 3C_DH_Tyre

.blitz

Great tyres but again the 3C wire bead is a bit of an animal you will definitely notice 2 x 1.2 kg of tyre on your Hardrock it will feel like it's nailed to the ground. 2.4 Ardents are massive the 2.6 is like :shock:

The 2.25 60a folders are almost-but-not-quite-as-grippy for trail riding and quite a bit faster http://www.nextdaytyres.com/tyres/Maxxis/Ardent.aspx
Only 650g or so. The EXO is tougher but heavier.

Advantages are a bit better than Ardents in rubble and loose stuff and only fractionally slower rolling on hardpack
http://www.nextdaytyres.com/Tyres/Maxxis/Advantage.aspx
Again the 2.25 60a folder is trail-tastic - tough, grippy, not draggy.

Nelson56

.blitz wrote:

Great tyres but again the 3C wire bead is a bit of an animal you will definitely notice 2 x 1.2 kg of tyre on your Hardrock it will feel like it's nailed to the ground. 2.4 Ardents are massive the 2.6 is like :shock:

The 2.25 60a folders are almost-but-not-quite-as-grippy for trail riding and quite a bit faster http://www.nextdaytyres.com/tyres/Maxxis/Ardent.aspx
Only 650g or so. The EXO is tougher but heavier.

Advantages are a bit better than Ardents in rubble and loose stuff and only fractionally slower rolling on hardpack
http://www.nextdaytyres.com/Tyres/Maxxis/Advantage.aspx
Again the 2.25 60a folder is trail-tastic - tough, grippy, not draggy.

Yeah and thanks but im just going to get the maxxis Ardent 3C DH Tyre http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/produ ... 3C_DH_Tyre