Tyres, tubeless or not

Kieran1412
Kieran1412 Posts: 3
edited May 2012 in MTB buying advice
Hi,

I've recently brought a XTR wheel set and need advice for which tyres to go for on them and whether to go tubeless or not. I've read up on going tubeless and think thats the route i want to go but unsure of what is needed - tires, sealant, rim tape, valves... etc.

The wheels say tubeless compatible so does this mean i just pick the tyres i fancy and throw them on? Or, are there specific tyres i need to get in order to make the stay inflated?

As the wheels say tubeless compatible does this mean rim tape and valves won't be needed or just that they can be converted to tubeless give the correct parts?

Any help on the matter would be ace,

many thanks.

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  • steelie600
    steelie600 Posts: 519
    Ive absolutely no experience with tubeless, BUT have read up on it a lot.

    IMO get a set of decent tubes, whak some slime in and job jobbed no punctures. Yes tubeless are meant to be lighter but a couple of hundred grams will make fook all difference, you can save that much by going the bog!!
    Idiot ^^^^^^^^^

    Ralph
  • Clank
    Clank Posts: 2,323
    I'm going to disagree. Saving a few hundred grams out of the tyres and wheels will make a huge difference.

    I've never run tubeless myself so can't answer the OP.
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  • steelie600
    steelie600 Posts: 519
    I can kinda see your point tbh in the rotational mass argument, but run a light tyre like a racing ralph evo or Nobby nic evo to combat that problem, like I have!!

    Tube slime and light tyre will be equal to if not lighter than a heavy tubeless tyre and sealant!
    Idiot ^^^^^^^^^

    Ralph
  • sandy771
    sandy771 Posts: 368
    steelie600 wrote:
    Ive absolutely no experience with tubeless

    I am not sure if this quote or your signature give the best indicator about whether to take advice from you on this subject.
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    XTR are UST - so you if you use UST tyres you just need the valves.

    If you use Tubeless Ready tyres (with UST compatible beads) you will need sealant.

    I tried tubeless, then went back to light tyres and tubes. I don't use slime.
  • Stu Coops
    Stu Coops Posts: 426
    Stay away from slime it creates a shite load of mess and doesn't work anyway, if your running tubeless just put in some sealent to seal the rim properly and job done, might be a bit of a pain inflating your tyres to get a seal though so if you know anyone with a compressor borrow it if not use one of those Co2 cartridges.

    As for if it's better than running tubes my mates run tubeless and swear by them others don't it's a personal thing really I have tubeless rims but run tubes.
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  • Clank
    Clank Posts: 2,323
    steelie600 wrote:
    I can kinda see your point tbh in the rotational mass argument, but run a light tyre like a racing ralph evo or Nobby nic evo to combat that problem, like I have!!

    Tube slime and light tyre will be equal to if not lighter than a heavy tubeless tyre and sealant!

    Ahh, but run the NNs tubeless and save the weight of the tube and that b****y aweful slime (which adds mass with little positive effect). :wink:

    Plus you get added benefits running tubeless once you go through the hassle of setting them up that no amount of in-tube gunk will give you - like being able to run ridiculously low pressures.

    Got to say, you're on a hiding to nowt with your current line of arguement. :lol:
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  • Kieran1412
    Kieran1412 Posts: 3
    so if i just get some Kenda Small Block Eight UST Tyres and NoTubes Stan's UST Valve Stem for example, all that is required then is some air into them?
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Yep! You might need a compressor though to get them seated.
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Oh, I might have a spare pair of XTR valves - they are a better fit than the stans. I'll have to have a look.
  • steelie600
    steelie600 Posts: 519
    Clank wrote:
    Got to say, you're on a hiding to nowt with your current line of arguement. :lol:

    Yeah but..................... My dads bigger than your dad :P
    Idiot ^^^^^^^^^

    Ralph
  • Clank
    Clank Posts: 2,323
    steelie600 wrote:
    quote]Yeah but..................... My dads bigger than your dad :P

    Seriously, dude.

    These thread are for people asking sensible questions and wanting sensible advice. Save the p**s taking for the Crudcatcher.
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  • The Spiderman
    The Spiderman Posts: 5,625
    I recently went tubeless with Roval Control wheels.They already had the rim strips in place and came with valves.All I need to do was add some Stans sealant.I used non tubeless standard Schwables.

    Next time I will use the newer TL versions but they still went up first time.The sidewalls are quite thin so I needed to lay the wheel on its side to get them to seal up the last hols the last remanant of escaping air but still pretty painless.

    I`d just buy some TL ready Schwalbes, Bontragers,Specialized 2bliss or hatever and save yourself the weight over UST.
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