Rear axle adapter? What do I order?

Latenight
Latenight Posts: 47
edited May 2012 in MTB buying advice
http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_ ... cts_id=496

Going to order some wheels but what adapter do I get?

Im not with my bike till next week but from what I remember it is a quick release system. But I'm not getting QR for the front so what do I get? Is there a industry standard size now?

Not sure what to order.

Bike spec is here

Frame Material: Aluminium 
■Frame Size: 19-20 
■Gears: 21+ 
■Gender: Mens 
■Suspension: Front 
■Alloy Rims: Yes 
■Brake Type: Hydraulic Disc 
■Chainset: Truvativ Firex 3.1 chainset with GXP BB 
■Exact Frame Size: 18" 
■Forks: Marzocchi 44TST2, 140mm travel, 15mm axle, adj rebound & lock-out 
■Frame Colour: White and Gunmetal 
■Frame-: Superlight GT Triple Triangle frame, hydroformed & butted tubing 
■Front Brake: Avid Juicy 3 hydraulic disc brakes, 185mm rotors 
■Front Mech: Shimano Deore 
■Gear Shifters: Shimano Deore Rapid Fire 
■Handle Bars: GT oversize handlebar 
■Headset: GT Alloy 
■Hubs: Formula dc20/e37 
■Number of Gears: 27 
■Pedals: Classic Cage with Toe Clips 
■Quick Release Wheels: Yes 
■Rear Brake: Avid Juicy 3 hydraulic disc brakes 160mm rotors 
■Rear Mech: Alex DP20 disc rims 
■Rear Shock: NA 
■Rims: Alex DP20 disc rims 
■Saddle: SDG Bel Air saddle 
■Seatpost: Alloy Black 
■Stem: GT Oversized 
■Tyre size: 2.3" 
■Tyres: Maxxis 

Comments

  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    So what is the bike?

    Lots of pointless info.
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  • Latenight
    Latenight Posts: 47
    Gt xcr aggressor
  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    You need a 15 mm front adaptor and a QR rear, or the 10 mm bolt adaptor.
  • Latenight
    Latenight Posts: 47
    Thanks chunkers

    Could you also please just explain how you know this for the rear? Just so I can learn..

    Is there any benefit to have QR or not to have it?

    Thanks
  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    I looked at your photo and the specs.

    QR is easily good enough, some people think the 10 mm thru is stiffer through the rear.
  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    I'd just go QR, you could buy the adaptor later if you wanted to try. Soz couldn't workout the PM reply.
  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    Just thought. Do you have an axel for you fork?
  • Latenight
    Latenight Posts: 47
    I do not, I'll buy one?
  • Latenight
    Latenight Posts: 47
    I've already ordered the wheels and I opted for the 10mm. I can ring and change it in the morning if it makes any difference to getting a axel : /
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    So you will need a 10mm axel for the rear as you did not get he standard fitting.

    You will also need to source an axel for the fork. They are fork specific.
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  • Latenight
    Latenight Posts: 47
    Hi

    What was the standard fitting for the rear?

    And ok, so it would be a marzocchi bomber axle?

    Thanks
  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    10mm QR for the rear frame.

    Yes you need an axel for the bombers. Not sure where they come from. But keep in mind that a RockShox 20mm is about 40 quid.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    well as Marzocchi make lots of forks with different designs you need on for your fork and year, so a Marzocchi 44TST2 20?? note only Marz. make them.

    standad is Qr fitting where all you need is the Qr. while with the 10mm you will need a seperate axle/Qr axle.
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  • leaflite
    leaflite Posts: 1,651
    Your bike, as with most xc bikes made around that time, originally came with standard quick release dropouts, and a quick release rear skewer. If you put a quick release skewer in the dropouts, you will note that whilst the endcaps are the same size as the dropout area, the central rod is smaller than the hole that it goes through. The hole is 10mm diameter, but the rod is about 5mm diameter.
    Superstar and a few other companies now sell axles that have a 10mm diameter, so they fit in standard quick release dropouts, but are supposedly stiffer due to the larger diameter of the rod/axle. To fit these to your bike, you will need the 10mm hub endcap fitting that you ordered, and a 10mm axle from superstar(these cost about £10).
    The stiffness increase is not massive, and the axles are much heavier than a standard quick release skewer. Because of this, I would go with the standard qr fitting for the rear.

    The rear axle is nothing to do with the front one, and superstar do not sell the axle for your forks.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    marz. 15mm axle is about 40 Quid.
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  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    Jeez - that's crazy money - over 25% of the bike price. Still a bargain, but not so much now!
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • Latenight
    Latenight Posts: 47
    Jeez - that's crazy money - over 25% of the bike price. Still a bargain, but not so much now!
    Jeez - that's crazy money - over 25% of the bike price. Still a bargain, but not so much now!

    ive got them to change the rear adapter.

    which is not the problem here...funny the most smallest simplest thing you think would be cheap turns to be v expensive. ill wait until i can get this axle cheaper. I think I found somewhere that may of had a repo one at the fraction of the cost.

    but yea ouch!

    i planned to spend £400. but obv now i have a rear wheel that I could sell. and really ive upgraded the bike without having to fork out for a big tag price in the first place. still thinking its gonna be a good bike for a good price. Ill of coarse update what ive spent etc.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    edited May 2012
    That's for a motorcycle.
    The one you want looks like this
    D_295%20MAR150.jpg
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    Latenight wrote:
    [ I think I found somewhere that may of had a repo one at the fraction of the cost.
    you will not.

    there just are not any out there other than the OE ones.
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    may i refer you back to your original post

    viewtopic.php?f=10004&t=12851481

    what did i say.

    ;)
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  • Latenight
    Latenight Posts: 47
    Yea I knew that, but wasn't changing the forks and knew about a 15mm axle. Just didn't realise they were hard to come by. Eek
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    Latenight wrote:
    Yea I knew that, but wasn't changing the forks and knew about a 15mm axle. Just didn't realise they were hard to come by. Eek
    They are regarded as part of the fork. Which is why they are hard to find. And why they are not cheap. The seller knew this.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • Latenight
    Latenight Posts: 47
    nicklouse wrote:
    Latenight wrote:
    Yea I knew that, but wasn't changing the forks and knew about a 15mm axle. Just didn't realise they were hard to come by. Eek
    They are regarded as part of the fork. Which is why they are hard to find. And why they are not cheap. The seller knew this.

    Good news...a mate damaged his forks but the axle might be saved. Same forks as mine. I'll find out tomorrow :D