Shimano Dura Ace 2013
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Nurse,NURSE,NURRRSSEDeath or Glory- Just another Story0
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I like the gloss black/polished alloy finish. I did not like the 7900 series, having had 7400 series for 20 years
Not so sure it's as pretty as 7800, never mind 7400, but I don't do matt black !
The chainset seems to be designed much stiffer at the power end. Yeh it's not pretty, but folk seem to like Rotor cranks. Campag stuff is very nice, but the skeleton brakes are a bit 'fugly'.
Bike purchase on hold to see what DA 2013 turns out like. Oh any more news on specific hubs for 11 speed ?0 -
willhub wrote:We like it, I like it, you like it too
Willhub's on wax for the Dura Ace crew
All I know is this chainset tears up nuff venue
So anytime we're around this is what we do
It's the way that we crank this sound
It's the way that we bring this Dura Ace to you
It's the way that we crank this sound
It's the way that we bring this Dura Ace to you
Hey Yo!!
You sure that was cous-cous?"There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world, t'would be a pity to damage yours."0 -
fossyant wrote:Bike purchase on hold to see what DA 2013 turns out like. Oh any more news on specific hubs for 11 speed ?
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Spy shots of the groupset are here.0 -
Just wanted to point out...it's the transmission FFS.
Gets the power from the engine (you), to the road. Does anyone really care about the aesthetic qualities of the chainset? (I know you do
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Derailleur systems are ugly, inefficient and have a number of technical shortcomings.
As a user, their efficiency is the only concern. Surely?Ecrasez l’infame0 -
Err no. why not have efficiency and beauty together?
If you thought one was ugly and one sleek(or something) which one would you buy.
Oh and ,dont ever call me shirleyDeath or Glory- Just another Story0 -
Secteur speaketh thus: he gazed upon the image of the 2013 Dura Ace and it pleased him. There endeth the sermon.0
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greasedscotsman wrote:Is this just the worst looking chainset ever?
Nope. No I don't think it is. I don't see anything wrong with it at all, in fact I would go as far to say from a purely aesthetic point of view it was quite striking, an innovative design. Would I have one? No I wouldn't, but only 'cos I don't need it.Trek Madone 3.5
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Secteur wrote:Secteur speaketh thus: he gazed upon the image of the 2013 Dura Ace and it pleased him. There endeth the sermon.
I think if you place your order for the new groupset now, you get a pair of these...
Although they will obviously be in a two tone finish and only have one arm. 0 -
Ok the design isn't that pleasing to the eye - but I ride my bikes - I don't sit there gazing lovingly at them. If it works - I'm not really that bothered.0
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I have to agree with the beer geek, can you ever make a raw mechanical system like that 'attractive'? I can see how frames and wheels can achieve that but something like the gears will always remain functional first. Although I agree with you on the silly marketing slogans slapped all over stuff, that sh1te should go.0
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What, frames and wheels are items for designerising but gears aren't? That strikes me as odd.
One of the things that I used to find appealing about bicycles was the fact that they were severely constrained by functional considerations. If you strayed too far from pure function (but with lipstick of your choice) the things just didn't work as well, so they were strongly constrained towards structural purity. It's still somewhat true but the advent of free moulding with carbon composites and fluid formed ally has allowed the wankery to do their worst. Now we have frame sets with pointless curves and gratuitous wiggles all with some form of disingenuous justification. It's the grown up version of ribbons on handle bars and cards in spokes but without the fun.
Re the 9000 chainset: It's a structurally functional design with a slick presentation. Not my cup of tea but a pretty good piece of design. I like it. A possible fault is the finish which may scratch up and look trashy pretty quickly.====================
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p9uma wrote:greasedscotsman wrote:
No, no I didn't.
OK, fair enough. I'll reply then. Can a bike not be functional AND pretty? Oh wait, I've said that before.
But in fairness, in your earlier post you said you liked how the new Dura Ace chainset looked. Looks like I'll just have to buy something else then, I doubt all chainsets will look like it from now on.0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:Is this just the worst looking chainset ever?
greasedscotsman wrote:De Sisti wrote:Seriously, what's wrong with it?
You like it? You would put it on your bike? But there's a bit missing! And the two tone finish looks terrible. Chainsets are supposed to look like this...
Shiney! 8)greasedscotsman wrote:Oh well, I'll have to buy this instead.
You need to make your mind up!
Two tone finish Shimano bad, but two tone finish SRAM good?0 -
Chaps, think about it. Having all the transmssion open to the elements is mad. Small bits of crud/twigs etc get warped in and..oh...better stop and dig them out.
Better doing the the Tour on a single speed...actually I think this has been done before.Ecrasez l’infame0 -
where does this leave concorde then? it had both form and function in equal measure.0
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Flasher wrote:You need to make your mind up!
Two tone finish Shimano bad, but two tone finish SRAM good?
You haven't quoted that correctly. You have missed out the
I put after the photo of the Sram chainset. I was joking, I don't like the Sram chainset either. 0 -
BelgianBeerGeek wrote:Chaps, think about it. Having all the transmssion open to the elements is mad. Small bits of crud/twigs etc get warped in and..oh...better stop and dig them out.
Better doing the the Tour on a single speed...actually I think this has been done before.
Apparently Shimano will be fitting electronic shifting to their hub gears. I wonder how long it will be until we are using a hub gear system with a belt rather than a chain? OK, you can only get 11 (?) speed systems at the moment and they are a bit heavy, but with gearing sizes being repeated, how many gears do you have with a 10 speed cassette and double chainset? And the weights are bound to come down. Won't happen with "performance" bikes just yet, but I think it will come.0 -
rake wrote:where does this leave concorde then? it had both form and function in equal measure.
Concorde was late on it's delivery date, it had over run on it's budget and no airlines wanted to buy it.0 -
The Dura Ace chainset is not for a bicycle. The Japanese are currently pannicking because they have fallen out of love with Nuclear fuel. The new Bullet train is going to be pedal powered. Now let me see:
Where N = number of passangers (max 400) x 5rpm per passenger PPP (passenger pedal power)
FM is the flywheel mass - see * (4 tons per carriage) We need flywheels in this instance so that initial force to create movement at 0mph is not infinite. The train will have to utilise this energy created by the passengers and flywheel mass by parking the train up a hill at the end of the day.
No of Carriages NC (8)
* Mass of 8 @ 4 tons per flywheel creating 4 tons mass at 1 RPM - FM
Flywheel speed = FS x N
Weight of train = WT (172 Tons, requiring an initial force of 0.25 x 172 - Coeff. of friction .27 x Gravity @ 9.81m per s Squared
[(Var)N [(x 5) x FM) x (4000Kg x (FS x NC Bracket not smiley - damn BR Server]
(172x9.81) x 0.27
When I put these fugures into my computer, the result it gave was that the next Prime MInister is going to be a black socialist.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
pinarello001 wrote:When I put these fugures into my computer, the result it gave was that the next Prime MInister is going to be a black socialist.
Is Boris Johnson black? And a Socialist?0 -
GiantMike wrote:pinarello001 wrote:When I put these fugures into my computer, the result it gave was that the next Prime MInister is going to be a black socialist.
Is Boris Johnson black? And a Socialist?
The future:
Boris dies tragically whilst riding his bike to work. In a wave of public concern, cars are banned in London and the city gets demolished for allotments, Trevor MacDonald s gets elected as prime minister and fat cats are taxed at 99p in the pound...
I'll keep taking the happy pills, with them, anything is possible.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
pinarello001 wrote:...and fat cats are taxed at 99p in the pound...
Hey! I'm a fat cat!0 -
Here is a link to a picture of the prototype SRM 11 speed Dura Ace crank, tested by Team Sky at the Giro.
http://yfrog.com/z/nvnf1poj***** Pro Tour Pundit Champion 2020, 2018, 2017 & 2011 *****0 -
rozzer32 wrote:Here is a link to a picture of the prototype SRM 11 speed Dura Ace crank, tested by Team Sky at the Giro.
http://yfrog.com/z/nvnf1poj
Now I like that! If only the circular bit between the crank and the chainrings was polished silver...0 -
If the pics are to be believed and it is actually the 2013 Dura Ace - personally I think it looks cool. Yeah - obviously not to everyone's tastes... but here's the thing: How many years in a row can you bring out the same-looking stuff?
Isn't this just a case of Shimano trying to be unique and stand out in the marketplace?
I wouldn't buy the chainset, but I like the rest of the groupo.0 -
Nice pic rozzer32, I like that. An elegant design at last for Shimano. Shame the groupset would cost more than my 'sportive' bike is worth 0
