Hardcore Hardtail Build?

peter_booker2003

Looking at building a hardcore hardtail that could handle pretty much anything.

What parts would you guys use? Budget is about 1K for the whole build.

This is my suggested spec list so far:

Frame: On One 456 Summer Season
Forks: Rockshox Revalation 15 Maxle
Groupset: Shimano SLX, Double and Bash
Brakes: XT M775 or the new SLX M666
Wheels: Not too sure, but want something that can handle a bit of downhill
Tyres: High Rollers

Any Input greatly appreciated.

welshkev

i'm looking at building one soon and looked at the 456 and revs combo. wheels were going to be superstar and brakes were gonna possibly be formula, but other than that it's the same as you

DodgeT

I'd budget a bit more, make sure you think of everything, its amazing how much extra the little things add up.
I'm building a C456 with revs and full SLX, with superstar wheels and trimmings and total cost is around £1.4k.
This was my shopping list, don't think i've missed anything, will soon tell when i'm building it


Frame
Forks
Headset
BB
Cranks
Pedals
Seatpost
Seat
Collar
Stem
Bars
Grips
Brakes
Discs
Adaptors
Shifters
R/mech
F/mech
Chain
Cassette
Cables
Wheels
R/skewer
Tyres
Tubes
Helitape

1mancity2

Superstar DHX wheels, Shimano Deore/Slx brakes

spongtastic

On one summer season is no moew and there's no standard 456 frames left. Nearest I can get to £1k for a decent build is -

You'd be 456 EVO for £199 or an undecalled 456 Carbon for £249
SLX transmission group from Merlin £224 on offer
Brakes SLX or XT from Rose or something Avis from CRC for about £120 + rotors
Wheelset £220 flows on switch evo from superstar, could drop to the AM standard set for £150
Forks Revs from Merlin £290 or Dual position Coil for about £230 from one of the german stores.
Finishing kit £100 minimum (bars, stem, post, grips, pedals, clamps, headset etc).

rockmonkeysc

Depends how hardcore you want it. My 456SS is built as a downhill / freeride bike with 160mm RS Domain forks, Intense downhill wheels, 1x9 SLX transmission Juicy 7 brakes & FSA Gravity finishing kit. It is bombproof, I regularly ride Triscombe DH trails on it which are pretty brutal as well as hucks, jumps & freeride trails at the local quarry.
I wouldn't fit 150mm forks unless you want a mega slack head angle with the handling of a DH bike.
If most of your riding will be all mountain & single track blasting I would go for a 140mm fork at most to get better steering.

peter_booker2003

RockmonkeySC wrote:

If most of your riding will be all mountain & single track blasting I would go for a 140mm fork at most to get better steering.

Thanks for that, Will bare it in mind.

supersonic

Carbon 456 frame £250
Deore groupset and brakes £235
Superstar AMX wheelset £130
Revelation RL £285
Exotic finishing kit, MG1, Charge sppon, tyres of your choice.

rockmonkeysc

Didn't the carbon 456 get a pretty bad review somewhere recently? MBUK or MBR I think.
Don't you just get a QR on the mega cheap Revelations? Not a lot of use on a hardcore hardtail.

peter_booker2003

Yup. I saw that review.

Like the look of the steel 456 and when it's back in stock I might invest. Means I can spend the extra on the revalations with the 15mm maxle

DodgeT

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Didn't the carbon 456 get a pretty bad review somewhere recently? MBUK or MBR I think.
Don't you just get a QR on the mega cheap Revelations? Not a lot of use on a hardcore hardtail.

In a recent mbuk, after an earlier glowing review from them... Plenty of peeps on here recommend them, give me a week or so and I should be able to give my own point of view, once the frame arrives !!!

Said earlier review http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/bikes/mountain/product/review-on-one-carbon-456-xt-pro-42704

rockmonkeysc

I know someone who has owned both & preferred the steel frame, said the carbon frame felt a bit dead.

spongtastic

peter_booker2003 wrote:

Yup. I saw that review.

Like the look of the steel 456 and when it's back in stock I might invest. Means I can spend the extra on the revalations with the 15mm maxle

As I've aleady said, the 456 Summer Season is no more, same for the standard steel 456.

You've now got the choice of Evo or Carbon.

supersonic

Not a lot of use on a hardcore hardtail

Why? Many riders can't tell any difference in stiffness, and one is not tougher than the other.

1mancity2

supersonic wrote:

Not a lot of use on a hardcore hardtail

Why? Many riders can't tell any difference in stiffness, and one is not tougher than the other.

Only difference I felt was a bit of flex when pushing hard in corners everthing else felt the same.