Changing rings on a rivetted chainset

stubs
stubs Posts: 5,001
edited April 2012 in MTB workshop & tech
Fixing up a bike to be used as a commuter and general cycle path hack. The chainset is a budget Suntour sq taper with rivetted chain rings, big and granny are fine, middle ring is sharkfinned badly and cant keep the chain on. I was wondering was it possible to drill out the rivets and use proper chainring bolts to fit a 2nd hand middle ring I have in my bits box.

The lad whose bike it is is a skint student so a new chainset is not in the budget.
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    not happening as you can not get spares. the BCD is different.
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  • stubs
    stubs Posts: 5,001
    BCD is the normal 104mm it was first thing I checked. Just wondered what I was going to find when I drilled out the rivets. Will have a go tommorow see what horrors lie beneath the rivets.
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Assuming the BB is the right length, I think I'd just buy a new chainset, something like:

    http://www.parker-international.co.uk/5 ... gn=pid5561

    Quality piece of kit.

    Or mega cheap:

    http://www.jejamescycles.co.uk/ice-cran ... 80562.html

    At least you know the chain will work the same on all rings.
  • bikaholic
    bikaholic Posts: 350
    I did once drill out the rivets of a silver SR Suntour crank for the sole purpose of replacing the outer ring for a single-speed build.

    Though, I can't remember the exact model number, it had a standard 104 BCD spider, but no bolt holes for the smallest chainring (it was pinned together onto the middle ring).

    The bolt holes in the spider were exactly the correct diameter for standard chainring bolts - if that's any help...
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    odd. you may be lucky,
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  • stubs
    stubs Posts: 5,001
    The budget for the job is a nought followed by another nought so trying to get the lad pedalling for nowt. Will fire up the pillar drill tommorow see what happens. If it goes horribly wrong might have to lend him the cash for a cheapo chainset.
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    I'll have a look in the loft, migth have a spare one.
  • Giraffoto
    Giraffoto Posts: 2,078
    supersonic wrote:
    . . .I think I'd just buy a new chainset, something like:

    http://www.parker-international.co.uk/5 ... gn=pid5561

    Quality piece of kit.

    When you look at the pictures of the M410 Alivio Chainset or M430 Alivio Chainset, it looks as if the four arms that the chainrings bolt to are a separate piece from the drive side crank arm (i.e., they're not all cast/machined from one piece of aluminium). Is that how they really are? If that's the case, how are they attached together?
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    most are. press fit on the cheap cranks and the more expensive had a spline fitting and a lock ring.

    even the new ones many are just a press fit, maybe with splnes.
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  • stubs
    stubs Posts: 5,001
    Got it all sorted but those rivets were a bit tougher than I expected though, took some careful drilling with the pillar drill. It looked like a normal spider when I got the rings off so I just bolted on a spare big and middle ring and the lad pedalled off into the drizzle happy as Larry.
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