forks, which is better ? much difference ?

castlelad

Rockshox recon gold tk coil 120mm travel on a saracen mantra elite £1099 and Rockshox sektor r solo air 140mm travel on a saracen zen x £1099.

oodboo

Had to compare apples to oranges. Depends what you want use them for.

castlelad

Ok stuff along the lines of cannock chase , as an alternative to use instead of the mongoose

tenfoot

I have the Sektor's on my bike and I'm happy with them. Apparently they can dive mid bend but I've not noticed this.

However - before this bike I was riding on a bike equipped with 13 year old Judy T2, so most things would feel better, I guess.

You need to think about where you ride, as to whether you need the travel. Also bear in mind that the Sektor R doesn't lock out.

IBISMojoHDamon

Controversial it maybe, but I've never understood why you would have lockout on a set of forks... Let's face it, you're spending £300 ish + on a set of SUSPENSION forks, why would you want them rigid?... Unless for road use or racing, you still get bumps and roots etc on the up's and surely a lockout would stop them from doing what they do best which is absorb these?....

So, IMHO... Lock Out is for roadies / commuters / racers / gay's.... :0)

castlelad

I see what your saying about l/o......esp on a ht... not too fussed about l/o tbh, where i mostly ride i wouldnt/dont need 140 mm travel and for the sake of 20mm there's no difference in parts on either bike really, its just i cant justify having another f/s so thought i'd check these out.....and it would save me £300 out of my budget for the mrs

http://www.saracen.co.uk/bikes/trail/mantra-elite

http://www.saracen.co.uk/bikes/trail/zen-x

supersonic

surely a lockout would stop them from doing what they do best which is absorb these?....

It is a low speed compression lockout. It can be used to stop movement from brake dive, bobbing, but the fork will still react to sharp impacts.

Higher end motion control forks allow complete tuning of this.

sanchez89

personally i would go Sektor as it has the Air spring for easier tuning to your weight, and if the Sektor has the Motion Control damper then it would be for me the better choice

Anonymous

With lockouts, I think it depends what suits you. They're not necessary in my opinion. My current ones (Lyrik RC2 DH solo air and Recon 327) have no lockout and never really found any need for one either. The Lyrik has lockout on some models, but not this one as I believe they feel it puts some limits on it for DH use even when turned off. I'm not big on climbing, though I have to do it, however it's not about performance and speed for me. Just getting to the top. I don't climb out of the seat which is where I see most bob issues at the front.

Oh, and keep coils for top end stuff, big DH rigs etc.

andrewjoseph

A lockout, front or rear, is useful on long tarmac or fireroad sections, not every trail is 100% singletrack. I have a few km of tarmac to get to the mountains or trails from my house.

Anonymous

Rear lockouts often aren't a full rigid lockout anyway but just suppress pedal bob (e.g. pro-pedal), and even then it depends on the suspension design as how useful they are (hence why I found it makes little difference on the i-drive and vpp systems I've used).

leaflite

I have a poploc adjust remote lockout on my revs. I hardly ever completely lock them out. However, I find the adjustable low speed compression(or partial lockout) via the blue dial very useful for tuning the fork slightly depending on the trail without having to get the pump out.

andrewjoseph

deadkenny wrote:

Rear lockouts often aren't a full rigid lockout anyway but just suppress pedal bob (e.g. pro-pedal), and even then it depends on the suspension design as how useful they are (hence why I found it makes little difference on the i-drive and vpp systems I've used).

my wife has a lock out on her stumpy, can't remember the model now. full lockout, I can't get it to move with all my weight jumping on it. then it has propedal and fully open.

my recon forks have a 'lockout/compression' adjustment that takes a good hit to open, so no bob under normal riding. shame my rear shock only has propedal and fully open. it bobs a fair bit.

EyesintheSky

I only ever use my lockout on climbs simply because they change the geometry, My DT Swiss' lockout works by not rebounding back up, so when they are locked out they go down to ~80mm which I find a lot easier to climb with. My old Recons had a poploc and thinking back, it just wasn't needed.

castlelad

Cheers for the replies.....not really answered my question tho soooooooooooooooo i went with some advice from my lbs and after my hols in april i will the the owner of.................

http://www.saracen.co.uk/bikes/trail/zen-x

1mancity2

castlelad wrote:

Cheers for the replies.....not really answered my question tho soooooooooooooooo i went with some advice from my lbs and after my hols in april i will the the owner of.................

http://www.saracen.co.uk/bikes/trail/zen-x

Good choice, I loved my saracen zen, wish I still had it tbh