Cassette - Wheel advice

Drzoidberg

Hi

I am upgrading my crank set and and moving from a SRAM 7 speed cassette and want to pop a 10 speed SLX cassette on there, are wheels specific for cassettes? Or are the fittings the same accross the board?

PS my rear hub is a Forged alloy, double sealed, ground race, steel QR, cassette, 32h (standard hardrock disc 2010)

Thanks

nicklouse

If it is a normal 8/9/10spd fitting (shimano spline) then yes I will fit.

Don't forget the 10spd shifters and mechs that you will need to get it working.

andy_welch

nicklouse wrote:

If it is a normal 8/9/10spd fitting (shimano spline) then yes I will fit.

Don't forget the 10spd shifters and mechs that you will need to get it working.

But the OP mentioned 7 speed. Didn't the freehub change with the move from 7 to 8 speed, or is my memory failing me in my old age.

Cheers,

Andy

Drzoidberg

Yeah it's 7 speed (just been and counted)

Also as you seem like bike savy types...

With the front mech i currently have a Shimano Altus, 34.9mm clamp on there (link below)

http://www.fibica.com/shimano-altus-fd- ... lleur.html


With the new front SLX front mech I just want to make sure I am ordering the right one, the correct one would be...

http://www.actionsports.de/images/produ ... .0030_1.jp

As its coming all the way from Germany I just want to get it right!

supersonic

Actual 7 speed freehubs are rare, very likely Spesh are using an 8/9/10 with a 4.5mm spacer.

Check for the spacer ;-)

nicklouse

andy_welch wrote:

nicklouse wrote:

If it is a normal 8/9/10spd fitting (shimano spline) then yes I will fit.

Don't forget the 10spd shifters and mechs that you will need to get it working.

But the OP mentioned 7 speed. Didn't the freehub change with the move from 7 to 8 speed, or is my memory failing me in my old age.

Cheers,

Andy

But most modern 7spds come on a 8/9/10spd body with a spacer.

If it s a 7dpd body or even a 7spd spin on lock then there are Los of other issues that come to play.


Like I said "If it is a normal 8/9/10spd body...."

Drzoidberg

I need it all in laymens terms sadly, this spacer. Is it a piece of metal bewteen the cassette and the wheel?

If so I cant see anything significant there, if anything it looks like theres no way 3 more 'rings' or whatever you call them would fit bewteen the wheel and frame

Also how can i tell if its a normal body? Are the hubs a certain width?

supersonic

Yep, between the wheel and cassette.

The 3 rings are not designed to fit into the space - 8/9/10 speed cogs are narrower and closer together through the entire structure.

andy_welch

nicklouse wrote:

But most modern 7spds come on a 8/9/10spd body with a spacer.

If it s a 7dpd body or even a 7spd spin on lock then there are Los of other issues that come to play.


Like I said "If it is a normal 8/9/10spd body...."

Ah right, good point, I was assuming that it was like my 20 year old Specialized that really does have a 7 speed hub. If it's newer then I'm sure you are right and it's much more likely that they just stuck a 7 speed cassette on an 8 speed freehub (with a spacer).

As you were

Cheers,

Andy

nicklouse

Drzoidberg wrote:

I need it all in laymens terms sadly, this spacer. Is it a piece of metal bewteen the cassette and the wheel?

If so I cant see anything significant there, if anything it looks like theres no way 3 more 'rings' or whatever you call them would fit bewteen the wheel and frame

Also how can i tell if its a normal body? Are the hubs a certain width?

Look for a covered in crud spacer. If you can't find that, check it has not come off with the cassette, then we can talk about measureing as there could be other issues.

Or if you want some reading try Sheldons pages.

Drzoidberg

I know its off topic a touch, but as above am i getting the right front mech?

With the front mech i currently have a Shimano Altus, 34.9mm clamp on there (link below)

http://www.fibica.com/shimano-altus-fd- ... lleur.html


With the new front SLX front mech I just want to make sure I am ordering the right one, the correct one would be...

http://www.actionsports.de/images/produ ... .0030_1.jp

supersonic

None of your links work I am afraid.

Drzoidberg

Sorry try again...

What I have I think (spes wesite calls it Shimano Altus, 34.9mm clamp)
http://www.fibica.com/shimano-altus-fd- ... lleur.html

What i plan to get...
http://www.jejamescycles.co.uk/shimano- ... 65690.html

supersonic

Yes, will be the correct mech for your frame.

wolvesdug

My spesh Hardrock disc 2010 had a 7 speed body.no spacers.

I had to change the back wheel to go 9 speed. (good excuse for a new wheel set )

Drzoidberg

Rightio new wheels it is. I dont want to break the bank so what are your thoughts on

A set of Mavic Cross rides? The weight looks decent, low compared to most and has decent reviews

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... tedKingdom

140 quid if you get them from Germany, which seems a good deal to me

supersonic

They are decent enough for the money, but are cheaper alternatives such as:

http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/Bike+Shop ... r_2176.htm

Crossride cheaper at Merlin too!

Drzoidberg

Hmm they look pretty good, but sadly I know even less about wheels than cranksets! All I know is that I need QR fittings and 6 bolt locks for the roters I have. I have spotted these however...

http://www.actionsports.de/gb/Wheels/Wh ... 37877.html

Anyone speak a bit of German and know if they are QR?

IBISMojoHDamon

Drzoidberg wrote:

Hmm they look pretty good, but sadly I know even less about wheels than cranksets! All I know is that I need QR fittings and 6 bolt locks for the roters I have. I have spotted these however...

http://www.actionsports.de/gb/Wheels/Wh ... 37877.html

Anyone speak a bit of German and know if they are QR?

Shame on you for looking to support the German economy.... :0)

Drzoidberg

I know, been to 3 LBS and they cant match the price or even get near it! I will be going local to fix it once I make a mess of it all up trying to attach these bits to my bike

IBISMojoHDamon

Drzoidberg wrote:

I know, been to 3 LBS and they cant match the price or even get near it! I will be going local to fix it once I make a mess of it all up trying to attach these bits to my bike

Have you taken this into account, I knows that times is hard but can your LBS do free fitting, spec'ing up what you need right in the first place?...

The wheels that you quote in the link are okay, but as someone has said, Hope's (sealed cartridge) are less maintenance needy and you buy from the UK. My LBS does Hope hoops and sells them by the bucket load.

But to answer your question, yes they are QR and if you use a free translation site, you can get a grasp of what the description say's... :0)

supersonic

I don't think he is going to get Hope wheels for £140! Or anywhere near.

If you must get cartridge bearings:

http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_ ... cts_id=536

Not light though.

I'd also look at this:

http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/Bike+Shop ... OUP-10.htm

Full Deore 10 speed groupset, with wheels and brakes for £300.