speeding ticket

kentishlad

On holiday in Australia and saw this on local news.A guy went through a
hand held speed gun in a 40kph zone and was clocked at 56kph.He was
hit with a $100 fine (£60). Isn't not having a speedo a good defence in
court and is a case like this worth arguing?

secretsqizz

OK, 1 poster, yeah right, I'd just get the hell back here then , next flight out and deny everything.

kentishlad

Not me,it's too hot to cycle so getting in plenty of fishing.I'm stuck here for another 8
weeks but someone's gotta do it!

napoleond

Not having a speedo is a sh!t defence!

Bobbinogs

NapoleonD wrote:

Not having a speedo is a sh!t defence!

Heh heh. Bit like saying "I don't know who's fault the accident was because I wasn't looking".

napoleond

Bobbinogs wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

Not having a speedo is a sh!t defence!

Heh heh. Bit like saying "I don't know who's fault the accident was because I wasn't looking".

Young girl in 'powered by fairy dust' ford ka wrote:

"I didn't realise you were trying to stop me, I was texting at the time..."

Genuine.

brucey72

Was he in a motor vehile or on a bike? When I read it I assumed that he was on a bike this being a yling forum(the letter between b and d pronouned see is not working on my keyboard by the way).

Aggieboy

He should get this chap on the case.

Gizmodo

Cyclist road rules and safety, Government of South Australia says:

Cyclists must obey all the road rules, just like motorists. This means obeying stop signs and traffic lights, riding on the left side of the road and giving way to pedestrians on crossings. Cyclists have the same rights and responsibilities as any other road user.

Cycling and the Law Booklet, Government of South Australia says:

SPEED LIMITS: Bicycle riders must obey the same speed limits as drivers of motor vehicles.

A car has to have a speedo, but it doesn't have to be calibrated as accurate, but you can still get booked for speeding. Claiming in court "sorry your honour, my speedo was way out, I didn't mean to do 45 in a 30" won't get you off, even if it was true.

kentishlad

I must be missing the point here.how can you obey a speed limit if you
don't know how fast you are going.a cycle speedo isn't a legal requirement.

napoleond

The onus is on you to obey the speed limit. Having a speedo helps. Not having one is no excuse.

timmyturbo

Also in Australia , if you want to become a cycle courier , you need to give a $500 bond , and have a reg plate on your bike . Red light 3 times you are banned from being a courier and lose the $500 . I used to be a courier , i would say bloody harsh , but also fair . (-: cheers

Gizmodo

2 pages of debate about the topic here http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12545036&start=15

napoleond

There's no offence for speeding on a bike in the uk. There are other offences that may be considered though. However where there is an offence of speeding (as in Aus) not knowing is no defence.

alihisgreat

i would have blamed it on shiny Lycra super-reflecting the radar/laser back.

rake

the mot rules are changing here to include the speedo calibration on the mot. so if its inaccurate you have an unroadworthy car.

markos1963

Does the offence of 'furious riding' still apply? I so want to be charged with it if it does.

napoleond

markos1963 wrote:

Does the offence of 'furious riding' still apply? I so want to be charged with it if it does.

Yeah wanton and furious cycling. You can get pokey for 2 years!

markos1963

NapoleonD wrote:

markos1963 wrote:

Does the offence of 'furious riding' still apply? I so want to be charged with it if it does.

Yeah wanton and furious cycling. You can get pokey for 2 years!

I'm going to watch Jeremy Kyle tomorrow before my ride and give it a go. Watch out North Norfolk!

greasedscotsman

NapoleonD wrote:

There's no offence for speeding on a bike in the uk. There are other offences that may be considered though. However where there is an offence of speeding (as in Aus) not knowing is no defence.

Does it matter if your in a 30 mph limit against national speen limit? Does that make sense? Is there no speeding offence at all for cyclists?

napoleond

No, it's the manner of riding and with regard to speed, is it appropriate for the circumstance? Measured speed may assist in a prosecution of wanton/furious bit OT would only make up part, supported by aggravating circumstances.

ilm_zero7

ALIHISGREAT wrote:

i would have blamed it on shiny Lycra super-reflecting the radar/laser back.

i'd be chuffed and ask for a picture and printout so it could be framed for the wall

jibberjim

There are speed limits that apply to bikes in the UK - the Royal Parks have them being the one that is very relevant to cyclists - and I think there's a byelaw on some Scottish cycle paths do. Regular roads don't certainly.

Motor cars in the UK don't have to even have a speedometer (if they're old enough), let alone a correctly calibrated and working one.

B3rnieMac

if you are braking the speed limit on the flat, im guessing you'd be pushing it quite hard. going down a hill though...you could do that quite easily. i'd say doing it on the flat would at least "look" furious.....i happen to be able to look quite relaxed and aloof while flying down a hill. certainly not furious. clearly i am exempt from this law.

cruiser33

Nothing to do with any of the above; but quite amusing regarding `speeding!`:

MattC59

cruiser33 wrote:

Nothing to do with any of the above; but quite amusing regarding `speeding!`:

Unfortunately, I suspect that is bullsh*t. The sidewinder is a heat seeking air to air missile, not a lazer guider air to ground missile, I'd be amazed if the RAF responded as was quoted.

(yeah yeah, i know..... Sad !! )