661 full face sizing?

TheNorthernTrain

About to invest in a full face to save my beautiful looks from being smashed on a rock, however I need help on sizing.

661 size guide says 55-56cm for a small and 57-58cm for a medium. My head is just hovering around the 56cm mark (I know it might sound obvious but if the sizes come up different as many items do...) Would I be best going for a small or a medium.

Cheers for any help...

delcol

About to invest in a full face to save my beautiful looks from being smashed on a rock,.

didnt work for matti lehikoinen he mangled himself good and propper with a fullfacer..

but i know were your coming from and use a full facer my self when gravity riding...

best advice is go to lbs and try them on if they dont price match then order online.. helmets are a personal thing what fits me wont fit you..

i tried on a THE compsite helmet and medium fit me fine i got a THE carbon helmet but the same style helmet in carbon would not fit i had to go for a large..
my tld d2 carbon lid is medium..
and when i destroyed my giro zen last year i had few choices in mind 661 recon, urge, to name a few i went to a lbs , but after a hour and a half of trying on several helmets none of which would fit my head. i ended up getting another gyro zen as it fit me.. the recon and the urge would not fit my head shape and size...

save your self the possable hassle and try one before you buy...

.blitz

I have an Evo and a Comp size XL to fit my massive 61cm noggin. The padding on both has compressed quite a bit esp on the Comp I think it would be possible to go for a smaller size than normal and put up with some discomfort to begin with. Depends whether you prefer a snug or roomy fit.

If it's any help the shells are oval-head shaped, like Giros.

Northwind

661 sizing's erratic IME... I've got a Strike 2 in medium, which is a bit cheapy but fits really well, and decided to get an Evo to replace it. Not even close to fitting, much bigger Shame, it was lovely.

Remember a helmet will break in a little over time (how much depends on a lot of things, partly on how well made it is) so one that starts out feeling perfect might end up being loose after 6 months. And a loose fullface can increase the risk of c-spine injury.

dusk

I have a 661 evo, measured my head at 59cm and got a Large size (58-60cm) and it fits nicely. I'd go for a small if I were you as you don't want it rattling around

clamps81

Tape measured my bonce, ordered an Evo as per my skull size and sizing seemed spot on. So, for evo at least it seems accurate.

Anonymous

I gambled on the tape measure, order the recommended size approach. Worked for me kind of*. However I've seen reviews which state they had to get XL when it says M and stupid things like that. I wonder if it's fat faced Americans though

* - I say kind of. It's hard to get the thing on to my head which is a good sign but it's not entirely snug once on which I get the impression it should be. It's pretty much there though.

Normally for a helmet I'd say try them on, as you can't be sure, but it's very hard to find a shop round my way that has a decent stock of full face helmets. Evans in fact told me they've stopped stocking them as there isn't enough demand. I could order one, paying in full in advance, and could then try it!

You can of course in theory send back what doesn't fit, but check the small print. Some are now saying they won't accept returns of helmets. This is legal apparently as they come under safety equipment and one shop (Cycle Surgery who have this policy both online and in store) told me they have no way of proving you haven't had a crash with it, on top of hygiene reasons. Thus they can't resell it and that's an allowed exclusion under the distance selling regs.

Mojo_666

TheNorthernTrain wrote:

About to invest in a full face to save my beautiful looks from being smashed on a rock, however I need help on sizing.

661 size guide says 55-56cm for a small and 57-58cm for a medium. My head is just hovering around the 56cm mark (I know it might sound obvious but if the sizes come up different as many items do...) Would I be best going for a small or a medium.

Cheers for any help...

Buy both from CRC and send the one that doesn't fit back, winner!!

Northwind

deadkenny wrote:

You can of course in theory send back what doesn't fit, but check the small print. Some are now saying they won't accept returns of helmets. This is legal apparently as they come under safety equipment and one shop (Cycle Surgery who have this policy both online and in store) told me they have no way of proving you haven't had a crash with it, on top of hygiene reasons. Thus they can't resell it and that's an allowed exclusion under the distance selling regs.

It isn't- the DSR guide for businesses specifically state that resellability isn't a valid reason to decline a return .

There's an exemption for "goods that by reason of their nature cannot be returned" but OFT698 goes on to say:

"I sell items that may raise health and safety concerns if returned unsealed. How are such products treated under
the DSRs?"

3.41 The first question to consider is whether such items fall under the exceptions listed at paragraph 3.38, for example goods that by reason of their nature cannot be returned. The DSRs do not define this category any further but we consider this exception to apply only where returning the goods is a physical impossibility or where they
cannot be restored in the same physical state as they were supplied. This exception may apply, for example, to items such as latex or nylon clothing which could become distorted once worn.
3.42 We are conscious of concerns about reselling items which may raise concerns about hygiene. However, the DSRs do not link cancellation rights with a supplier’s ability to resell items as new.
3.43 With items that fall outside the exceptions, cancellation rights will apply, but the consumer has a duty under the DSRs to take reasonable care of the goods throughout the cancellation period.

Cyclesurgery are being very cheeky there- not just claiming that they're allowed to deny returns (which they aren't) but that they're banned from allowing returns!

The Northern Monkey

Try one on?

Anonymous

Hmm, from their T&Cs - http://www.cyclesurgery.com/terms-and-c ... cp-content

"We are legally unable to refund or exchange helmet returns so be careful when choosing"

This is also printed on their receipts in store. Though I did manage to return mine anyway. Was all still in box looking like new and bought the previous day so think they let me off.

TheNorthernTrain

The Northern Monkey wrote:

Try one on?

I know it sounds an obvious answer but working 9-7 Monday - Friday and also working Saturdays means that time is limited - especially if I want to spend anytime in the saddle, which is most of the rest of my weekend.... Plus the added point someone made earlier that no shops round me actually stock any full face helmets. Kinda makes it hard

Thanks for the help everyone. I'm gonna gamble with the small. Better to be too snug than a bit loose i guess.

Northwind

deadkenny wrote:

"We are legally unable to refund or exchange helmet returns so be careful when choosing"

This is also printed on their receipts in store. Though I did manage to return mine anyway. Was all still in box looking like new and bought the previous day so think they let me off.

I think they knew that they don't have a leg to stand on tbh. To be fair they might just be unaware of the DSRs, lots of companies are but the way they're claiming the law prevents them from exchanging and returning helmets makes me think it's purely to stop people even trying.