Avid Elixir5's - Are they same "Feel" as Juicy 3's?

Jenny Taylia

Hi.

I've got Avid Juicy 3's on my XCR and I can't get on with their "Spongy" feel. I much prefer the "On or Off" feel of the old Hayes 9's.

I'm considering a set of the Elixir 5's but I need to know if they will give the same "Vague & Spongy" feel as the Juicy's.
Any help / advice appreciated.

Many thanks

Chunkers1980

There was a CC post about you! Which people didn't seem to get :-/

Elixirs are different to the Juicy's seem to be more reliable and not as much faff as their predesessors.

Still, I'd go Shimano or Formula over any Avids.

Jenny Taylia

Chunkers1980 wrote:

There was a CC post about you! Which people didn't seem to get :-/
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what's a CC post? I don't understand the above, please explain.

Thanks

Chunkers1980

Crud Catcher. Not you just someone not getting why someone called Jennifer Taylor could be funny, but you've don't so there could be no confusion.

Jenny Taylia

Chunkers1980 wrote:

Crud Catcher. Not you just someone not getting why someone called Jennifer Taylor could be funny, but you've don't so there could be no confusion.

Found it Seems not many folks get it either :roll:

Cheers

Sue Dunim

The Rookie

I find Juicy's far from spongey, if anything I find mine (older 5's) too abrupt and not progressive enough! (aka not as progresive as I'd like) Plenty of power though.

Simon

Mojo_666

The Beginner wrote:

I find Juicy's far from spongey, if anything I find mine (older 5's) too abrupt and not progressive enough! (aka not as progresive as I'd like) Plenty of power though.

Simon

I had Juicy 3's on my old bike and binned them for XT's as the J3's were crap, my new bike has Elixr7's and they blow away my XT's and the J3's.
I wasn't looking forward to more Avid brakes and was thinking I would end up putting my XT's straight on my new bike but this wont happen...ever, cant speak for the Elixir 5s but they 7s are very good.

Jenny Taylia

The Beginner wrote:

I find Juicy's far from spongey, if anything I find mine (older 5's) too abrupt and not progressive enough! (aka not as progresive as I'd like) Plenty of power though.

Simon

My 3's are hopeless (There's a brake component joke if I ever heard one :roll: )

I've bled them 3 times and had them to my LBS twice. Changed pads for softer ones but they are still spongey and will not lock up either wheel! I've had to bail-off on more than one occasion :shock:

.blitz

Haven't had any particular problems with three sets of J3s they feel a bit cheap 'n' cheerful but they've been OK.

FWIW my Voltage has Elixir 5s with 200mm rotors and they do feel better. Kindof firmer and more precise - like an Evo version of the J3s. Not wildly better, just better.

The Rookie

The J5's lock the back wheel on mine very easily, the front needs a firm squeeze (160mm discs) but will happily lift the back wheel - strange as visually the J5's look identical to the J3's (My Daughter runs a older J5 front and a nearly new J3 rear - which at 8.5stone she can lock easily enough as well), although I would say the J5 isn't much better than the BB5's on the lads Spesh, he wants to upgrade to Hydro's but realistically will have to go Elixer to make it worthwhile.

Simon

nwmlarge

elixrs have better pad retention systems which is nice and they feel better.

sanchez89

i have elixir 5's on my bike. they are more than powerful enough, for me, for trail riding. i havent tried juicy 3's but my hardtail has Tektro Auriga Pro, which are a similar budget model, and they weren't bad at all, but no where near as good as the 5's.

the elixir can be feathered quite easily. and with 185mm rotors both ends will stop you very quick indeed.

rockmonkeysc

Juicy's are fine, they just need bleeding every few months. I have got a set of Juicy sevens on my downhill bike which are excellent & since fitting braided hoses they haven't even needed bleeding. Elixirs are ok but I wouldn't buy a set, I would go for Formula's

Ro88o

one word - no!
I had juicy 3's on my Boardman, didn't realise how crap till i got my Trek and fitted Elixir 5's.
They're ok with me - im well impressed, and feel good with the 185 rotors. Wharny's my local so they get plenty of use.

just one note: if your bikes stored hung up or laid flat in the car the levers will pull to the bars at first use - apparently its perfectly normal, i was a little worried at first and kept bleeding them but they work fine

nicklouse

Jenny Taylia wrote:

Hi.

I've got Avid Juicy 3's on my XCR and I can't get on with their "Spongy" feel. I much prefer the "On or Off" feel of the old Hayes 9's.

I'm considering a set of the Elixir 5's but I need to know if they will give the same "Vague & Spongy" feel as the Juicy's.
Any help / advice appreciated.

Many thanks

Sounds like poor set up to me.

Yes they fell and work about the same.

If you want Hayes braking buy Hayes. You should find many ou her cheap as the digital braking they offer is poor.