Lyrik RC2L vs 36 Talas R

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  • ilovedirt
    ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
    DTW wrote:
    I've just been looking at the 36 Van RC2. I would sacrifice the U Turn for a dedicated 160mm of travel but it would just be for cosmetic reasons...how shallow of me :oops:

    The Lyrik arrived yesterday but the crown is scratched so I'm going to bring it back, I know it will end up getting scratched anyway but at £720 I want it as fresh as a daisy.
    Return it and buy it from winstanleys, they have the 2010 lyrik coil with the micoDH damper in for £456 right now. Hands down, you won't find a better fork for that money.

    edit: here. The ad says mission control damper, but mine turned up yesterday and has the mission control DH damper in it (no floodgate. But considering what i paid, i'm not going to complain, and supposedly it's better controlled anyway)

    As for the original question, I've never actually tried a fox fork, but for the amount of fork you get for your money, rockshox win hands down. For the same price as a very basic fox fork with little control over the damping etc, you get a high end rockshox fork with a great damper. There's no comparison really. If you were to compare them straight, money no object, the answer would be different. Lord knows why canyon have stopped selling their bikes with high end rockshox forks and replaced them with low end fox, it really makes no sense to me...
    Production Privee Shan

    B'Twin Triban 5
  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    If you don't want the lockout it makes sense to get the DH damper. Lockout on the standard mico damper chokes up the small bump response even when switched off. You can remove it easily enough from standard damper though but they reckon the DH damper works a little better (can't tell meself)
    Uncompromising extremist
  • ilovedirt
    ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
    Northwind wrote:
    If you don't want the lockout it makes sense to get the DH damper. Lockout on the standard mico damper chokes up the small bump response even when switched off. You can remove it easily enough from standard damper though but they reckon the DH damper works a little better (can't tell meself)
    Do you know if it's possible to swap the damper from my new lyriks with the damper from my totems? I have some totems with the standard mico damper, and the lyriks have the micodh damper, wouldn't mind swapping them, as I found the floodgate quite handy.
    Production Privee Shan

    B'Twin Triban 5
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    I don't think so as the stanchion sizes are 35 vs 40mm.
  • ilovedirt
    ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
    Yeah i thought as much, i'm not entirely sure how the internals on the RH leg are bolted together you see.
    Production Privee Shan

    B'Twin Triban 5
  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    Haven't a clue. But you might be able to get someone with a standard damper to swap..
    Uncompromising extremist
  • richg1979
    richg1979 Posts: 1,087
    only fox 36s worth getting are with adj compression (rlc ect).

    As stated the R's are not good at all, you cannot get the pressurs set so you can use the travel.
    If you set them up so you use 90% of travel (even with big nose heavy hits) you end up with about 40% sag making the fork very wollowy under power and dives a lot under braking.

    Set them up so there good under power and dont dive under braking and there terribly harsh on chattery surfaces, have poor traction on loose sufaces and end up with 20% of travel that you will never use.

    The lyriks i found to have much better mid support and are a lot more adjustable.
  • bluechair84
    bluechair84 Posts: 4,352
    I've done the oil and seal change on my 2006 Fox Van 36 RC2, and the process was easy enough. No difficulties or special tools required.