Bike Build- What else do i need to buy

whosthedaddy

Hi
Original plan was to upgrade my Cervello S1, its a bit racy for my aging years and I'm now thinking about building a bike from scratch
Frameset yet to be decided on, but I have my eyes on a couple of Carbon ones
I have purchased a few items and already have these
Planet X Carbon Tubular Wheelset
Ultegra SL Triple Chainset & Bottom Bracket 170mm FC6603/FC6604-G 52-39-30
Ultegra CS-6700 11-28 Cassette Sprocket

I'll need brakeset, front mech and rear deralier, handlebars etc
What should I buy, bearing in mind that I would like to keep everything Ultegra where possible
Advice on parts with part numbers would be much appreciated

Cornish-J

Stem, headset, seatpost and forks (if they dont come with the frameset), saddle, bottom bracket bearings, cables, bar tape.

cant really give advice on parts as it's personal preference mate. obviously if you want all ultegra, then just buy an ultegra groupset...

marcusjb

You'll always forget something!

Yes, if you want it all Ultegra, buy it as a complete groupset (should be cheaper) - it should come with cables as well. Though if you already have the chainset and BB, you might not save money.

Chain - quite important.

Make sure frameset comes with seat clamp, bolts, cable stops, etc. Headsets - some frames do, some don't - so be sure!

If you buy the Ultegra bits seperately, you'll need shifters, front and rear mechs, brakes front and rear - the latest Ultegra 6700 stuff will work with your 6600 chainset - the front mech on the triple may take a bit of fiddling, the latest one has a very sculpted cage - but it works well with other chainsets not from 6700 range with a bit of work (I have a TA Carmina setup with 48/36/26 on it and it all works fine off 6700 shifters and mechs).

Order some helicopter tape off eBay to stop cable rub etc.

Cable donuts

Does the wheelset come with skewers?

Bottle cages if you haven't any spare.

As above, seatpost, stem, bars etc. etc.

Work out the bits you are happy doing yourself, and those that you are not. I'm a bit of a wuss and have always had bike shops cut fork steerers for me - oh and bottom bracket shell facing (if required) - everything else I can handle myself.

As sad as I am, I created a spreadsheet with my last bike build - listing each item (when I first started, a rough budget for each item so I knew the total build cost etc.). I'm pleased to say I didn't forget anything!

Hope that helps a little!

ugo.santalucia

Whosthedaddy wrote:

Hi
Original plan was to upgrade my Cervello S1, its a bit racy for my aging years and I'm now thinking about building a bike from scratch
Frameset yet to be decided on, but I have my eyes on a couple of Carbon ones
I have purchased a few items and already have these
Planet X Carbon Tubular Wheelset
Ultegra SL Triple Chainset & Bottom Bracket 170mm FC6603/FC6604-G 52-39-30
Ultegra CS-6700 11-28 Cassette Sprocket

I'll need brakeset, front mech and rear deralier, handlebars etc
What should I buy, bearing in mind that I would like to keep everything Ultegra where possible
Advice on parts with part numbers would be much appreciated

The combination triple chainset and carbon tubolars sounds a bit bizarre... one is for long steady rides on demanding terrain, the other is for racing

Torvid

Also does the fork need a star nut or an expander bung (carbon steerer) if it doesnt have one.

whosthedaddy

marcusjb wrote:

You'll always forget something!

Yes, if you want it all Ultegra, buy it as a complete groupset (should be cheaper) - it should come with cables as well. Though if you already have the chainset and BB, you might not save money.

Chain - quite important.

Make sure frameset comes with seat clamp, bolts, cable stops, etc. Headsets - some frames do, some don't - so be sure!

If you buy the Ultegra bits seperately, you'll need shifters, front and rear mechs, brakes front and rear - the latest Ultegra 6700 stuff will work with your 6600 chainset - the front mech on the triple may take a bit of fiddling, the latest one has a very sculpted cage - but it works well with other chainsets not from 6700 range with a bit of work (I have a TA Carmina setup with 48/36/26 on it and it all works fine off 6700 shifters and mechs).

Order some helicopter tape off eBay to stop cable rub etc.

Cable donuts

Does the wheelset come with skewers?

Bottle cages if you haven't any spare.

As above, seatpost, stem, bars etc. etc.

Work out the bits you are happy doing yourself, and those that you are not. I'm a bit of a wuss and have always had bike shops cut fork steerers for me - oh and bottom bracket shell facing (if required) - everything else I can handle myself.

As sad as I am, I created a spreadsheet with my last bike build - listing each item (when I first started, a rough budget for each item so I knew the total build cost etc.). I'm pleased to say I didn't forget anything!

Hope that helps a little!

Thanks for the info, much appreciated
I have carbon bottlecages and the wheelset has come with skewers and pads

whosthedaddy

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Whosthedaddy wrote:

Hi
Original plan was to upgrade my Cervello S1, its a bit racy for my aging years and I'm now thinking about building a bike from scratch
Frameset yet to be decided on, but I have my eyes on a couple of Carbon ones
I have purchased a few items and already have these
Planet X Carbon Tubular Wheelset
Ultegra SL Triple Chainset & Bottom Bracket 170mm FC6603/FC6604-G 52-39-30
Ultegra CS-6700 11-28 Cassette Sprocket

I'll need brakeset, front mech and rear deralier, handlebars etc
What should I buy, bearing in mind that I would like to keep everything Ultegra where possible
Advice on parts with part numbers would be much appreciated

The combination triple chainset and carbon tubolars sounds a bit bizarre... one is for long steady rides on demanding terrain, the other is for racing

Complete lack of knowledge here, was told by a work colleague that the wheelset was a bargain and it would be ideal - Handbuilt Paul Curran that was recently on Planet X
I wont be doing any racing and might have to see if they will take them back for another wheelset
The price of the tubs has also put me off these

ugo.santalucia

Whosthedaddy wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Whosthedaddy wrote:

Hi
Original plan was to upgrade my Cervello S1, its a bit racy for my aging years and I'm now thinking about building a bike from scratch
Frameset yet to be decided on, but I have my eyes on a couple of Carbon ones
I have purchased a few items and already have these
Planet X Carbon Tubular Wheelset
Ultegra SL Triple Chainset & Bottom Bracket 170mm FC6603/FC6604-G 52-39-30
Ultegra CS-6700 11-28 Cassette Sprocket

I'll need brakeset, front mech and rear deralier, handlebars etc
What should I buy, bearing in mind that I would like to keep everything Ultegra where possible
Advice on parts with part numbers would be much appreciated

The combination triple chainset and carbon tubolars sounds a bit bizarre... one is for long steady rides on demanding terrain, the other is for racing

Complete lack of knowledge here, was told by a work colleague that the wheelset was a bargain and it would be ideal - Handbuilt Paul Curran that was recently on Planet X
I wont be doing any racing and might have to see if they will take them back for another wheelset
The price of the tubs has also put me off these

Beware work colleagues...
Decent tubulars cost on average 50% more than the equivalent clincher tyres and getting them repaired cost some money too (and hassle)... if you have time and inclination, you can learn to stitch them yourself... the hassle of having to carry a couple of tubs around on every ride is unavoidable though. If they are new, surely they will accept a swap, Planet X has a very good customer service... worst for worst you can ask them to re-rim them with a pair of clinchers of similar profile

whosthedaddy

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Whosthedaddy wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Whosthedaddy wrote:

Hi
Original plan was to upgrade my Cervello S1, its a bit racy for my aging years and I'm now thinking about building a bike from scratch
Frameset yet to be decided on, but I have my eyes on a couple of Carbon ones
I have purchased a few items and already have these
Planet X Carbon Tubular Wheelset
Ultegra SL Triple Chainset & Bottom Bracket 170mm FC6603/FC6604-G 52-39-30
Ultegra CS-6700 11-28 Cassette Sprocket

I'll need brakeset, front mech and rear deralier, handlebars etc
What should I buy, bearing in mind that I would like to keep everything Ultegra where possible
Advice on parts with part numbers would be much appreciated

The combination triple chainset and carbon tubolars sounds a bit bizarre... one is for long steady rides on demanding terrain, the other is for racing

Complete lack of knowledge here, was told by a work colleague that the wheelset was a bargain and it would be ideal - Handbuilt Paul Curran that was recently on Planet X
I wont be doing any racing and might have to see if they will take them back for another wheelset
The price of the tubs has also put me off these

Beware work colleagues...
Decent tubulars cost on average 50% more than the equivalent clincher tyres and getting them repaired cost some money too (and hassle)... if you have time and inclination, you can learn to stitch them yourself... the hassle of having to carry a couple of tubs around on every ride is unavoidable though. If they are new, surely they will accept a swap, Planet X has a very good customer service... worst for worst you can ask them to re-rim them with a pair of clinchers of similar profile

Planet x have agreed to swap for clinchers, so top marks for them

Wirral_paul

Whosthedaddy wrote:

Planet x have agreed to swap for clinchers, so top marks for them

Or they understand Distance Selling Regulations - one or the other....

g00se

If you're using carbon, make sure to get carbon appropriate seat clamp - and stem and bung (if the steerer is carbon). Also, get a carbon seat post - an alloy pin just wouldn't be right.

If you're new to this game, then a 2-25nm torque wrench might be an idea too - when tightening up against carbon. And carbon paste will be helpful in maximising the grip on clamped components.

Look up carbon assembly issues - especially regarding the headset area where failure is painful... Zinn's road bike maintenance book is a good start.

Nuggs

Make sure you have the correct tools etc.

A couple of torque wrenches are a must. As are carbon assembly paste, copper grease/anti-seize paste and thread locker. Don't forget a chain tool and I'd recommend you fit quick links to the chain for easy future maintenance.

I'd also highly recommend a 'third hand' tool. Very handy when setting up brakes and deraillieurs.

You will also need a constant supply of hot tea and some beers (when sun passes yard arm).

jordan_217

The 105 groupset I bought from Merlin had inner cables but no outers. It's probably worth checking when you buy.

If you're doing the build yourself then a work stand makes things much easier. As g00se mentioned the, 'Zinn the art of road bike maintenance' is a good source of info, advice and fettling tips. I couldn't have upgraded my bike without it.

Not withstanding the bike parts, try and factor into your budget the tools and other bits that you'll need just to put the whole thing together. It all adds up - probably equal to or slightly more than getting a LBS to do the work but then for every bit of work after you do after that, the tools etc pay for themselves.

Buying a workstand, some semi-decent tools and doing everything myself has saved me a small fortune in workshop fees and it's quite rewarding when you've finished.

Good luck!

g00se

Oh - and use some of the budget for the bike shop to do some odds and sods. No need to fork out nearly £100 on bearing and race presses if you can find a good, local shop that will do them all for a tenner.