How to tax cyclists...
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They do say there is a thin line between genius and insanity. G Sibley has crossed it!FCN 3: Raleigh Record Ace fixie-to be resurrected sometime in the future
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Who prints this sh!t?
Christ, and getting into journalism is difficult. Maybe I should go for a different tact - pretend to be midly retarded.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Who prints this sh!t?
Christ, and getting into journalism is difficult. Maybe I should go for a different tack - pretend to be midly retarded.
FTFY
Are you going for jobs in The Sun? If so, as you were.FCN 3: Raleigh Record Ace fixie-to be resurrected sometime in the future
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I don't see the problem. Many people commute right through the Summer wearing Altura Night Vision jackets and similar, I 'm sure the rest of us could do it; it's all for the greater good...Pannier, 120rpm.0
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Good idea, I reckon. The hi-viz could also have your FCN clearly displayed to facilite scalp identification. Although you'd need a different hi-viz for each different type of steed you own, of course.0
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More importantly, NSB - what were you doing reading Metro? Shouldn't you have been cycling? :-)Pannier, 120rpm.0
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EKE_38BPM wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Who prints this sh!t?
Christ, and getting into journalism is difficult. Maybe I should go for a different tack - pretend to be midly retarded.
FTFY
Are you going for jobs in The Sun? If so, as you were.
Yeah, maybe that's where I'm going wrong.
Spot the foreigner. Gets the lil' English anachronisms wrong.
Edit: You can see where I'm coming from with that mistake.
It still makes sense using 'tact'.
After all, tact: having or showing a sense of what is fitting0 -
A pedestrian I knocked over while running a red light was reading it.TGOTB wrote:More importantly, NSB - what were you doing reading Metro? Shouldn't you have been cycling? :-)
Seriously though, I stole the picture from somewhere else.0 -
I think it is a great idea but it should apply to pedestrians as well.
Faster than a tent.......0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:EKE_38BPM wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Who prints this sh!t?
Christ, and getting into journalism is difficult. Maybe I should go for a different tack - pretend to be midly retarded.
FTFY
Are you going for jobs in The Sun? If so, as you were.
Yeah, maybe that's where I'm going wrong.
Spot the foreigner. Gets the lil' English anachronisms wrong.
Edit: You can see where I'm coming from with that mistake.
It still makes sense using 'tact'.
After all, tact: having or showing a sense of what is fitting
What's your excuse for "midly" then? Can't believe people missed that one, standards slipping....0 -
I ain't going out riding dressed up as a Day-Glo-Hero or Reflecto-Man.
If drivers can't see your the police can't either so no need to obey.I used to just ride my bike to work but now I find myself going out looking for bigger and bigger hills.0 -
The Swiss manage to make tax discs for bikes work, although I think that's for registration and insurance rather than tax.
It's all nonsense. If you did make bikes pay VED, they'd be zero emissions, so free anyway. :roll:0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:
Yeah, maybe that's where I'm going wrong.
Spot the foreigner. Gets the lil' English anachronisms wrong.
Edit: You can see where I'm coming from with that mistake.
It still makes sense using 'tact'.
After all, tact: having or showing a sense of what is fitting
From sailing tacking (I only know that from reading Swallows and Amazons as a kid...)0 -
I don't understand. I pay tax. Quite a lot of it in fact. I wish I didn't but they take it out of my pay packet the bastards.0
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Rick Chasey wrote:Who prints this sh!t?
Of greater concern is the fact that someone actually writes said sh!t.FCN 2-4.
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"It stays down, Daddy."
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Yebbut you don't get shìt without an arsehole to let it out...cjcp wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Who prints this sh!t?
Of greater concern is the fact that someone actually writes said sh!t.0 -
I thought cyclists do pay tax? There is VAT on bikes, components and accessories unless you do C2W which gives tax relief. That letter is simply ballcocks. It must be from an aspiring MP or care in the community patient.Life is like a roll of toilet paper; long and useful, but always ends at the wrong moment. Anon.
Think how stupid the average person is.......
half of them are even more stupid than you first thought.0 -
Cyclists pay taxes.
PAYE, N.I., VAT, Council, inheritance.
Just not a vehicle emmissions tax.
When will people learn :roll:None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Spot the foreigner. Gets the lil' English anachronisms wrong.
Are you sure you mean anachronisms?“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
daviesee wrote:Cyclists pay taxes.
PAYE, N.I., VAT, Council, inheritance.
Just not a vehicle emmissions tax.
When will people learn :roll:
I've seen a variation on this one: what about the unemployed who cycle? They don't pay to maintain the roads?
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KB: surely you can just reply (other than by sighing and walking away) with "you know, you're right. Children shouldn't be allowed to go to school until they've worked and paid in enough tax to fund their education. And as for those mooching war widows...."0
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TailWindHome wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Spot the foreigner. Gets the lil' English anachronisms wrong.
Are you sure you mean anachronisms?
I was thinking that - sailors still change tack (direction), so it's not an anachronism. Commuting on a penny farthing would be an anachronism. Idiom might be the word you want.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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As pointed out already in this thread, as a zero emission vehicle, a cycle would be charged at £0 per year. All the other arguments that people give (like there being no such thing as "road tax") are pointless given the fact that we would be liable to no VED charge anyway.
I remember about 3 years ago where there was someone slating cyclists on a local newspaper website. I pointed him to an article on the same website about an operation the police had run on a local A road. In two weeks they'd stopped over 1,000 cars for speeding or driving while on a mobile phone. As I said to him, stop moaning about cyclists as the enemy and realise that car drivers, who are registered/taxed/insured, aren't the whiter-than-white law abiding people you make them out to be.0 -
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Didn't you know? If you write to HMRC with a picture of your bike you're taken off the PAYE list and they issue a plastic card that you present when making any purchases (including fuel for the car that you don't use as much due to the bike), and VAT plus any other duty is discarded from the purchase price. It's great. You must know about it; everyone who adds their insightful comments to newspaper filler stories seems to know about it.dilemna wrote:I thought cyclists do pay tax? There is VAT on bikes, components and accessories unless you do C2W which gives tax relief. That letter is simply ballcocks. It must be from an aspiring MP or care in the community patient.
I sent two pictures in and now make a profit with my buying prowess.0 -
Genius post. Off to write a letter now...CiB wrote:
Didn't you know? If you write to HMRC with a picture of your bike you're taken off the PAYE list and they issue a plastic card that you present when making any purchases (including fuel for the car that you don't use as much due to the bike), and VAT plus any other duty is discarded from the purchase price. It's great. You must know about it; everyone who adds their insightful comments to newspaper filler stories seems to know about it.dilemna wrote:I thought cyclists do pay tax? There is VAT on bikes, components and accessories unless you do C2W which gives tax relief. That letter is simply ballcocks. It must be from an aspiring MP or care in the community patient.
I sent two pictures in and now make a profit with my buying prowess.FCN3: Titanium Qoroz.0 -
QFTsquired wrote:As pointed out already in this thread, as a zero emission vehicle, a cycle would be charged at £0 per year. All the other arguments that people give (like there being no such thing as "road tax") are pointless given the fact that we would be liable to no VED charge anyway.
I remember about 3 years ago where there was someone slating cyclists on a local newspaper website. I pointed him to an article on the same website about an operation the police had run on a local A road. In two weeks they'd stopped over 1,000 cars for speeding or driving while on a mobile phone. As I said to him, stop moaning about cyclists as the enemy and realise that car drivers, who are registered/taxed/insured, aren't the whiter-than-white law abiding people you make them out to be.0
