Sportive, why are we tolerating this?
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JGSI wrote:Moray Gub wrote:I think you are being a bit of drama queen about all this done loads of sportives and audax over the years and never had any of the problems you seem to encounter. Maybe the problem is your riding ability rather than others no ?
I'l sit back and enjoy this 1...
no offence Murray Moray, but I'll take Maryka's riding ability over yours any day of the week if your riding is limited to solo riding in sportives and audaxes.
My experience with random other riders on the road is probably biased by the fact that I don't have a penis and they know it... 0 -
They aren't that bad are they - if you get a few iffy riders then you can normally avoid them or give them a bit more room. Everyone has to start somewhere and once you've done a few 3/4 circuit races nothing can ever be as bad by comparison.
it's a hard life if you don't weaken.0 -
JGSI wrote:
Maybe so but i dont seem to have a problem riding in large groups alongside other riders of varying abilities that she seems to have.Gasping - but somehow still alive !0 -
Not sure where I said that...Moray Gub wrote:JGSI wrote:
Maybe so but i dont seem to have a problem riding in large groups alongside other riders of varying abilities that she seems to have.
My experience of late -- as in the past season or two -- is that many riders come to the sport and get fit pretty fast. But they don't join clubs and learn how to ride well in a group and take up a racing license and learn to race for real. Instead they pay £25 to do a sportive riding around on strangers' wheels because in their minds that's "racing". And they show up at Richmond Park in the evenings looking for a tow around, joining other random riders til they are effectively racing each other around the park as a group of 8 or 10 riders in a "peloton". Yes, search the Sportive forum for the words "racing" and "peloton" and you'll see what I mean.
Sportives (and Richmond Park on summer evenings) are like the cycling equivalent of dogging. People show up knowing they are going to meet people with the same intentions. They often seem surprised or even annoyed when you don't want to partake in their same buzz-seeking pleasure. And if you don't have those intentions, you start getting sick of waving people through or telling them to back off, so you just don't go anymore.0 -
maryka wrote:Sportives (and Richmond Park on summer evenings) are like the cycling equivalent of dogging. People show up knowing they are going to meet people with the same intentions. They often seem surprised or even annoyed when you don't want to partake in their same buzz-seeking pleasure. And if you don't have those intentions, you start getting sick of waving people through or telling them to back off, so you just don't go anymore.
Dogging? Not having penises??
You seemto be a bit pre-occupied with undercarriage type thoughts at the moment.0 -
Indeedbrianonyx wrote:maryka wrote:Sportives (and Richmond Park on summer evenings) are like the cycling equivalent of dogging. People show up knowing they are going to meet people with the same intentions. They often seem surprised or even annoyed when you don't want to partake in their same buzz-seeking pleasure. And if you don't have those intentions, you start getting sick of waving people through or telling them to back off, so you just don't go anymore.
Dogging? Not having penises??
You seemto be a bit pre-occupied with undercarriage type thoughts at the moment. Unintentionally coincidental I promise. 0 -
brianonyx wrote:Dogging? Not having penises??
You seemto be a bit pre-occupied with undercarriage type thoughts at the moment.
Hmm, she said she was just heading off on a work dodgers ride to Box Hill whilst I'm here with the baby... I'll be checking Strava carefully for any long delays in a car park...Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/0 -
I've no real problem with people taking my wheel when I'm out on the road - if they're fast enough to catch me then they wont be that bad a bike handler. I'm not keen on the guys on sportifs desperately out to get a fast time (like anyone cares) on the event, and they scream by in a paceline with the riders at the end struggling so much that they haven't the energy to move round you and and up brushing your elbow.
Oh and people lobbing gels on the road. If you do that, you should be shot. No excuses.0 -
cougie wrote:I've no real problem with people taking my wheel when I'm out on the road - if they're fast enough to catch me then they wont be that bad a bike handler. I'm not keen on the guys on sportifs desperately out to get a fast time (like anyone cares) on the event, and they scream by in a paceline with the riders at the end struggling so much that they haven't the energy to move round you and and up brushing your elbow.
Oh and people lobbing gels on the road. If you do that, you should be shot. No excuses.
I agree with all of this, especially the gels bit. Only issues I've had being swallowed up by a paceline is with London Dynamo - I know, club riders being inconsiderate, who'd have thought it?!
Maybe Maryka's issues stem from the fact that less competent male riders are fast enough to overtake her but not competent enough to do it safely?0 -
I'm not so sure it's people who catch you, it's people you catch that are the problem - they're not fast enough to ride the same speed as you without you as a windbreak, but they are strong enough to hold your wheel, and I think women get more of a problem as a lot of people who are happy to let some strong guy go by them because they can rationalise that the guy is a awesome, but are much less willing to let it happen with a woman.
The people who catch you just go by surely?Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/0 -
joe2008 wrote:
There are some women I'd die to hold the wheel of, quote]
Like this one perhaps......?
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Sportives can be good fun, but the end of the day it's a ride and an expensive one at that. You might just get the same bang for a lot less of your bucks on something like this....
http://www.gregarios.co.uk/cycling-clubs/Gregarios-no-cost-sportive-equivalent.html0 -
Is there a site that lists all sportives and allows for rider reviews this would surly sort the wheet from the chaff. If not do you think it would help?Training for the Cycle to Spain and the Quebrantahuesos
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This one: http://www.cyclosport.org/
Although the problem is that the ratings can vary widely (as can the experience, so I guess that is reasonable) and the numbers of reviews are generally low (say 3 or 4 for an 800 rider event, which is hardly representative).
Interestingly, the bad ones get the most reviews
e.g.,
Dragon Ride 2011
Rating: 60.469% based on 45 reviews
Previous Years Rating: 85.084% based on 53 reviews0 -
Cheers will check it out could save time, money and stress in 2012Training for the Cycle to Spain and the Quebrantahuesos
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