Alternatives to wheelbender/butterfly stands

bails87

We've got a secure bike parking space at work now, behind a locked gate. It's 'only' a padlock though, so someone could still get in, therefore the bikes still need to be locked.

At present there are 6-7 'wheelbender' stands, which are bad for the wheels, and don't allow you to lock anything with any great security. You can lock a wheel to the stand and that's it, unless you've got a massive cable lock. As a result the bikes tend to be parked side on to the wall, so each one takes up the space of 2-3 stands, meaning it's only really got a capacity of 3 bikes.

The landlord has apparently said that if there is enough interest he/she/they will out in some more stands. With that in mind, does anyone know of any alternatives I can suggest? Something that will be mounted to the wall, and allow 'proper' locking up.

asprilla

Wall Dock?

bails87

Asprilla wrote:

Wall Dock?

I'm trying, but for the life of me I can't make sense of that link......

thistle_

Can the wheelbenders be replaced with Sheffield stands? Boring, but tried and tested.

If you keep the Sheffield stands perpendicular to the wall but offset the leg away from the wall so you can get your forks in line with the post. You would only need half as many Sheffield stands because you can lock one bike either side. Something like this: http://www.barriersdirect.co.uk/assets/ ... _black.jpg

Other cycle parking solutions are available.

ooermissus

Spacepods? http://cyclepods.co.uk/products/spacepods

davis

Can you make a bike "pull a wheelie", putting the front wheel above the stand, and lock the frame to the stand?
Obviously this depends on what's above the stands..

bails87

davis wrote:

Can you make a bike "pull a wheelie", putting the front wheel above the stand, and lock the frame to the stand?
Obviously this depends on what's above the stands..

With the wheelbenders? Everyone just puts the bike side on and locks the frame to the stand that way. I also lock the wheel and frame to a second stand. I'm blocking it, I may as well use it.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I suspect the cheaper the better with the landlord :roll: so it might just be sheffield stands. Or we'll be ignored and it'll be more wheelebenders.

asprilla

bails87 wrote:

Asprilla wrote:

Wall Dock?

I'm trying, but for the life of me I can't make sense of that link......

Lets try that again, shall we.

Edited the link.

meanredspider

Please don't get me started on this. Here have just installed about 40 wheelbender stands at huge expense - including a load of civil work (paving etc etc). They say they don't have the budget to cover them. Consequently the greatest number of bikes I've seen in the 40 spaces is.......



.....2 (and often one of those has fallen over). Meanwhile, the original shed is packed :roll:

MichaelW

Sheffield stands are hard to beat. You have to position them with sufficient room all around, many are stacked so close you can only use every other lockup. Others are set too close to the wall so the front wheel cant extend behind the vertical post.
Toastrack Sheffields solve some of these problems and take less groundworks.
En-echelon Sheffield stands are useful where you dont have room for the whole length of a bike within your parking area.
Go for stainless steel rather than zinc galvanised, these scratch paintwork.

Spacepods are designed to minimize groundworks and to reduce people messing with QRs but if you are behind a locked gate, that is not an issue.

bails87

Thanks for all the info, any stands will probably have to be against the wall with only one bike per stand.

Viewed from above, the space is a long, thin rectangle, enclosed by walls (with a building on top!, no wall hopping theives to worry about) on three sides, with the gate being the fourth 'wall'. The space is only just over a bikes length wide, so putting sheffield stands in the middle, so both side can be used would just end up blocking access.

I'll speak to the other cyclists to see what they want, and then pass it on to estates/the landlord.

thistle_

Where I used to work, the company built new bike sheds at their head office as part of a big refurbishment. The sheds had something similar to the bike docks in them.

There were no end of complaints about them, the most common one being that people couldn't lift their bikes high enough to get them in as they had heavy bombproof commuter bikes with panniers full of stuff on them :roll:

I think the real issue was that the company always wanted to present themselves as a very bike friendly employer, yet they hadn't consulted on any of the proposals and 18 months after the building reopened, people still weren't allowed to use the bike sheds because they weren't "finished"

bails87

Just for reference, TFL and CTC have got guides on cycle parking, which both say not to use butterfly stands. I've send these to the estates guy.

Links:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/ ... -Guide.pdf
http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/campaig ... rkinfo.pdf