another awesom path is going to be ruined in the peaks....
rode the jacob ladder loop today, noticed a load of gravel bags 20-30 at least in a field, from hope cross down to coldwell clough.↲Halfway down i realised what they doing. Their filling the rocks in with soil and compacting it down.↲if you like a rocky down get there, be gone soon ruined.↲someone needs to stand up for our rights :shock:
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Bridleways, allthough (IIRC) the track down Roych Clough is a Byway... Just one of those things, the routes have to be open to all... Some repair work I've seen is good, there's a nice section prior to the first flagstones on Cutgate which was well done...0
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The bridleway has been the same for centuries with little change. I've rode it for the last 20 years, seen little change, so to smooth it out for safety reasons is a sin for conservation, an acceptable reason.↲we walk, ride,horse ride, choose that path for a challenge and to experience rugged nature. ↲change for health and safety is wrong0
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The "boo hoo, poor 'extreme mountian bikers' losing their bumpy path" argument is one that is hard to counter. After all the path is a public right of way, open to all so why should it be preserved as a rocky technical challenge.
But what seems more rational is asking why does this need to be done in the first place? Especially given the huge amount of money that the work will cost.
The argument of access for all seems spurious at best, there are plenty of 'wilderness light' options for people who want to drive to a walk and not read a map or wear some boots, there is no need to pave every path in the peaks so every man and his family can go for a stroll. And judging by the queues of cars leaving Sheffield on a sunny weekend day there are plenty of people enjoying the national park as it is.
Protection from erosion also seems false, the path has been in the same state for years and would remain that way for years, the new compacted path will be much more likely to erode and will be a right mess when it does (see what has happened to the byway down from Stanage Pole for an example of that)
So mountain bikers need to gather with other groups to influence the policy makers and ROW officers with budget to spend. Influence not to provide gnarly trails for a few hardcore MTBers at the perceived detriment of other users, but influence to stay the hell of our wilderness and stop melding in something that has worked perfectly well for decades without any previous outside influence.0 -
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The lakes have gone the same way. feels like going up a flight of stairs walking up some of them.
Leave well alone I say.Peter0 -
Corrected that for yamkf wrote:rode the jacob ladder loop today, noticed a load of gravel bags 20-30 at least in a field, from Edale cross down to coldwell clough.↲Halfway down i realised what they doing. Their filling the rocks in with soil and compacting it down.↲if you like a rocky down get there, be gone soon ruined.↲someone needs to stand up for our rights :shock:
I find this a little strange.The track/BW is not even eroded,(well it's been down to bedrock for at least 25/30 years I know I 1st walked Jacobs Ladder circa 1982 ) and apart from dedicated walkers/bikers/equestrian types your average Joepublic won't bother walking to 1800ft ASL,so why "repair" a path that doesn't really need to be "repaired" :roll: 0 -
I was riding up there the weekend before last, so I enquired at the ROW Office at Derbyshire Council. Their reply stated 'a helicopter was lifting stone from a site next to Hayfield Public Bridleway 72 (the Bridleway between Edale Cross & Coldwell Clough) and taking it onto Kinder Scout' so it looks like it was a false alarm.0
