Dale Farm Evictions...
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Seen on the news today the wheels have started moving on this one, police are using forceful tactics to remove protesters to gain entry to the site....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-15357932
I'm all for the evictions, its not as if any of us could just build a house on greenbelt land. However, where are these guys going to end up next? There's nowhere for them to go! This is what I don't understand... They should have created an area of land for them to move to, in my opinion, it's only going to cause more problems in the long run.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-15357932
I'm all for the evictions, its not as if any of us could just build a house on greenbelt land. However, where are these guys going to end up next? There's nowhere for them to go! This is what I don't understand... They should have created an area of land for them to move to, in my opinion, it's only going to cause more problems in the long run.
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There needs to be an intermediate solution.
I'm not totally up on the situation, but do these people have jobs and pay taxes?0 -
Get a job and pay rent. Simple.I don't do smileys.
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they were offerd permanant residence in local housing, they refused it as its against their "culture" ?
my mate recons their heading your way Matty, Swavessy. apparently they've bought some land there?0 -
they were offerd permanant residence in local housing, they refused it as its against their "culture" ?
They really have no excuse then, unless they are prepared to buy some land and get planning rights.0 -
supersonic wrote:They really have no excuse then, unless they are prepared to buy some land and get planning rights.
The thing is...they do own the land they're on. They just didn't have planning permission for the buildings.
I'm all for the freedom of rights.
I just don't agree with the piss-taking is it cuz I is black? idiots on Dale Farm.
Totally understand their argument. I'm just yet to hear it spoken in any kind of reasoned fashion.0 -
thats why everyone in basildon is so pissed off with them, they have been put to the top of housing lists, and given the special treatment etc etc, but they still want to rob and pillege the surrounding areas and get away without paying for anything!
I dont know who the protestors are, but they sure as hell arn't locals!
I know they have no where to go, but surely thats what makes them "travelers"??
staying in one place for over 10 years doesnt make you a traveler?0 -
butcher of bakersfield wrote:supersonic wrote:They really have no excuse then, unless they are prepared to buy some land and get planning rights.
The thing is...they do own the land they're on. They just didn't have planning permission for the buildings.
I'm all for the freedom of rights.
I just don't agree with the wee-wee-taking is it cuz I is black? idiots on Dale Farm.
Totally understand their argument. I'm just yet to hear it spoken in any kind of reasoned fashion.0 -
I have zero sympathy for them
Bertie O'Hern the Irish PM warned Tony Blair about the travellers when Europe became a free travel zone, of course NL ignored the warnings and these "travellers" came over in masses
They don't adapt to the community, they don't pay taxes, they don't obey the law and are a law unto their own.
The protesters are just bleeding heart, leftist liberals hanging on to any cause that undermines common sense.0 -
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Viz had 'em sussed years ago .
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Poor travellers, how dare we make travellers move.. oh wait hang on?0
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Raymondavalon wrote:I have zero sympathy for them
Bertie O'Hern the Irish PM warned Tony Blair about the travellers when Europe became a free travel zone, of course NL ignored the warnings and these "travellers" came over in masses
They don't adapt to the community, they don't pay taxes, they don't obey the law and are a law unto their own.
The protesters are just bleeding heart, leftist liberals hanging on to any cause that undermines common sense.
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Montevideoguy wrote:Raymondavalon wrote:I have zero sympathy for them
Bertie O'Hern the Irish PM warned Tony Blair about the travellers when Europe became a free travel zone, of course NL ignored the warnings and these "travellers" came over in masses
They don't adapt to the community, they don't pay taxes, they don't obey the law and are a law unto their own.
The protesters are just bleeding heart, leftist liberals hanging on to any cause that undermines common sense.
Set them on fire
They taser'd a couple this morning, does that count? I heard one of the protesters on the radio this morning calling what the council are doing 'ethnic cleansing'... :roll:
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Ethanol cleansing more like, dirty buggers.0
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Tom Howard wrote:Montevideoguy wrote:Raymondavalon wrote:I have zero sympathy for them
Bertie O'Hern the Irish PM warned Tony Blair about the travellers when Europe became a free travel zone, of course NL ignored the warnings and these "travellers" came over in masses
They don't adapt to the community, they don't pay taxes, they don't obey the law and are a law unto their own.
The protesters are just bleeding heart, leftist liberals hanging on to any cause that undermines common sense.
Set them on fire
They taser'd a couple this morning, does that count? I heard one of the protesters on the radio this morning calling what the council are doing 'ethnic cleansing'... :roll:
Oh dear...
ethnic cleansing!! so are these gypos suggesting that being a pikey thieveing law breaking gypo is an ethnicity? amazing.0 -
sheepsteeth wrote:Tom Howard wrote:Montevideoguy wrote:Raymondavalon wrote:I have zero sympathy for them
Bertie O'Hern the Irish PM warned Tony Blair about the travellers when Europe became a free travel zone, of course NL ignored the warnings and these "travellers" came over in masses
They don't adapt to the community, they don't pay taxes, they don't obey the law and are a law unto their own.
The protesters are just bleeding heart, leftist liberals hanging on to any cause that undermines common sense.
Set them on fire
They taser'd a couple this morning, does that count? I heard one of the protesters on the radio this morning calling what the council are doing 'ethnic cleansing'... :roll:
Oh dear...
ethnic cleansing!! so are these gypos suggesting that being a pikey thieveing law breaking gypo is an ethnicity? amazing.
Ethnic cleaning more like...smelly cnuts.
I'm not against immigration or anything like that... but you have to live by the rules of the country you're in. These space dockers do no such thing.
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Montevideoguy wrote:I'm not against immigration or anything like that... but
is that like when i say to people "I'm not racist or anything , but............."0 -
sheepsteeth wrote:Montevideoguy wrote:I'm not against immigration or anything like that... but
is that like when i say to people "I'm not racist or anything , but............."
A bit more nuanced than that thankfully as I'm not actually against immigration. I just believe that integration and living by the rules of the country you're in have to be considerations. These people don't and so they should be burnedFormally known as Coatbridgeguy0 -
sheepsteeth wrote:Tom Howard wrote:Montevideoguy wrote:Raymondavalon wrote:I have zero sympathy for them
Bertie O'Hern the Irish PM warned Tony Blair about the travellers when Europe became a free travel zone, of course NL ignored the warnings and these "travellers" came over in masses
They don't adapt to the community, they don't pay taxes, they don't obey the law and are a law unto their own.
The protesters are just bleeding heart, leftist liberals hanging on to any cause that undermines common sense.
Set them on fire
They taser'd a couple this morning, does that count? I heard one of the protesters on the radio this morning calling what the council are doing 'ethnic cleansing'... :roll:
Oh dear...
ethnic cleansing!! so are these gypos suggesting that being a pikey thieveing law breaking gypo is an ethnicity? amazing.
Ironically no, this was one of the liberal, probably lesbian, feminist, protest against everything lefty human rights activist. Commenting that the pikeys were staging a peaceful protest and the police had no right to do what they were doing. Peaceful protest? They built a tree house to piss on the coppers from, were chucking rocks and setting fire to sh!t. Napalm the place.Santa Cruz 5010C
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Montevideoguy wrote:sheepsteeth wrote:Montevideoguy wrote:I'm not against immigration or anything like that... but
is that like when i say to people "I'm not racist or anything , but............."
A bit more nuanced than that thankfully as I'm not actually against immigration.
yeah, yeh, i see what you mean, I'm not against it either0 -
The wife did used to get a bit pissed off when I'd inform her she wasn't white though.
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Montevideoguy wrote:The wife did used to get a bit pissed off when I'd inform her she wasn't white though.
Make of that what you will
yeah, now you are talking
glad to see you sent her home too.0 -
Damn straight. I'm living with the natives (a term one of her pals took great offence to)Formally known as Coatbridgeguy0
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see, casual racism IS funny as long as everyone involved (after making sure there arent any foreigners about) understands its just some harmless predjudiced fun!0 -
Pikeys are fair game. There's no racism about it, they're just not much different from Somali pirates.
Take off from orbit and nuke them. Only way to be sure.
Well that or send them back to Ireland.
Other option is change the law to enforce council tax on caravans. Then let's see if they really are travellers.
And to all the middle class hippies who defend them, who do you think keeps nicking the copper for your broadband connections or the power cables to the railways?
There. Stereotypes fulfilled.0 -
They are the s***est travellers ever aren't they, they forgot to travel. Clue is in the name really.
But OTOH it's a wee bit of a joke- they'll get moved somewhere, and the money spent on all the evictions etc has been basically pissed down the drain when it would have been cheaper to come to a mutually satisfactory conclusion. But too late for that now, the money's been wasted and nobody's happy.Uncompromising extremist0 -
I just thought, while were talking about nuking the site, could we please put the cast of the only way is essex in there too? b'stards have ruined my home town!0
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VWsurfbum wrote:my mate recons their heading your way Matty, Swavessy. apparently they've bought some land there?
:-(
There's already a permanent gypsy camp just behind my house, don't need another one.... There's enough middle class hippies here in Cambridge to support the little feckers, shame they weren't around to support us when the garage got broke into coincidently at the same time some gypsy's moved onto some development land inside our housing estate!
Time to change the law to allow gypsy's a haven gypsy camp (cough cough Auschwitz).0 -
junglist_matty wrote:VWsurfbum wrote:my mate recons their heading your way Matty, Swavessy. apparently they've bought some land there?
:-(
There's already a permanent gypsy camp just behind my house, don't need another one.... There's enough middle class hippies here in Cambridge to support the little feckers, shame they weren't around to support us when the garage got broke into coincidently at the same time some gypsy's moved onto some development land inside our housing estate!
Time to change the law to allow gypsy's a haven gypsy camp (cough cough Auschwitz).
I used to live in Chesterton, about a 10 minute walk from the Fen Road gypsy site, and they kept stealing my bikes. I brought over about 3 grand worth of hardtails with me from America, and a road bike, and within 6 months every bike had been stolen from our garden, which had a 8 foot high wooden fence and all bikes were d locked to the ground. Would come out in the morning and the bike anchors were literally ripped out of the ground.
So depressing, I hatethe feckers.0