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Top 10 Sprinters by wins.

rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
edited September 2011 in Pro race
Wins in stage races and classics from bunch sprints:

1. Mario Cipollini - 98 Wins

2. Freddy Maertens - 68 Wins

3. Alessandro Petacchi - 67 Wins

4. Miguel Poblet - 64 Wins

5. Robbie McEwen - 59 Wins

6. Erik Zabel - 52 Wins
Franco Bitossi - 52 Wins
Giuseppe Saronni - 52 Wins
Tom Boonen - 52 Wins

10. Mark Cavendish - 45 Wins.


A little to go before you beat old hero Boonen Mr. Cavendish.
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  • Wins in stage races and classics from bunch sprints:

    6. Erik Zabel - 52 Wins
    Franco Bitossi - 52 Wins
    Giuseppe Saronni - 52 Wins
    Tom Boonen - 52 zeges

    10. Mark Cavendish - 45 Wins.


    A little to go before you beat old hero Boonen Mr. Cavendish.

    Yes. Another season.
    I was only joking when I said
    by rights you should be bludgeoned in your bed
  • rebsrebs Posts: 891
    I don't think so he will get caught. Cav gets wins but he doesn't seem to ride many races for wins. Cept to go for conditioning. He Cav was French I'd say he would have been much much closer with so many smaller 1 day races which would be in your interest to win.

    Bring a Brit (yes yes a Manx!) :P he doesnt get much chance to win many on home soil.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
    Salsiccia wrote:
    Wins in stage races and classics from bunch sprints:

    6. Erik Zabel - 52 Wins
    Franco Bitossi - 52 Wins
    Giuseppe Saronni - 52 Wins
    Tom Boonen - 52 zeges

    10. Mark Cavendish - 45 Wins.


    A little to go before you beat old hero Boonen Mr. Cavendish.

    Yes. Another season.

    But can Cavendish win this, like this:
    photo_1239551737168-5-0.jpg

    Or this:

    pic812163_600.jpg
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
    Either way, it's an interesting stat.

    Surprised Cav was not higher than Boonen, and surprised Zabel was tied with him.
  • Well he's got the jersey............
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  • Give it 2 or 3 seasons and Cav will be in second place.
    He may never catch Cipo but he'll get close barring injury.
    If suffer we must, let's suffer on the heights. (Victor Hugo).
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
    *sighs*

    This is the real reason I have beef with Cavendish.

    He doesn't like Boonen.
  • But can Cavendish win this, like this:
    photo_1239551737168-5-0.jpg

    Or this:

    pic812163_600.jpg

    There not really bunch sprints though, are they?

    Seem to remember a while back there was a thought that Cavendish could win races like Flanders and Roubaix. Do people still think he can win Flanders with the new revised finish in Oudenaarde?
  • cameronecamerone Posts: 1,232
    I didn't know Boonen had won P-R 6 times..
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here

    There not really bunch sprints though, are they?

    That's my point... :P
    Seem to remember a while back there was a thought that Cavendish could win races like Flanders and Roubaix. Do people still think he can win Flanders with the new revised finish in Oudenaarde?


    I don't think Cavendish can.

    At best, I think he could become a Freire, and win from a smaller group he's found himself in, but that's at best.

    I think Cavendish will be just a better Petacchi/Cippolini type.

    Cippo won Ghent Wevelgem from a smaller group sprint anyway.

    So yes, a Cippo type, not a cobbled rider.
  • LangerDanLangerDan Posts: 6,132
    camerone wrote:
    I didn't know Boonen had won P-R 6 times..

    Nah - he's just indicating the number of years before he wins something again

    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
    LangerDan wrote:
    camerone wrote:
    I didn't know Boonen had won P-R 6 times..

    Nah - he's just indicating the number of years before he wins something again


    If you count the classics like you would world cup races, like Museeuw does in this picture... musseeuw2002.jpg

    ...then Boonen had won 6.

    2 Flanders, 3 Roubaix, 1 World Champs...

    *ahem*
  • LangerDanLangerDan Posts: 6,132
    Museeuw is just showing how many "wasps" it took to pull off that particular win.
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • LangerDan wrote:
    camerone wrote:
    I didn't know Boonen had won P-R 6 times..

    Nah - he's just indicating the number of years before he wins something again


    It's the signal to his dealer about how many grams are going to be needed for the night's party.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
    LangerDan wrote:
    camerone wrote:
    I didn't know Boonen had won P-R 6 times..

    Nah - he's just indicating the number of years before he wins something again


    It's the signal to his dealer about how many grams are going to be needed for the night's party.

    :lol:
  • dbmnkdbmnk Posts: 217
    But can Cavendish win this, like this:
    photo_1239551737168-5-0.jpg

    Or this:

    pic812163_600.jpg

    Holm recently stated that as the big dream of Cav
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
    It's a big dream of mine.

    It's unlikely to happen.
  • Rick - Where does your immense love of Boonen come from anyway?
  • Rick - Where does your immense love of Boonen come from anyway?

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  • If you count the classics like you would world cup races...

    I see that Cavendish is also aware of this system...

    Mark-Cavendish-006.jpg

    1 no. Milan San Remo
    1 no. World RR Championship
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
    edited September 2011
    Rick - Where does your immense love of Boonen come from anyway?

    Ah a good question, and one I'm not sure I can fully answer.

    #1, I'm obviously not as massive fan as I probably make out on here. It's more fun if you're a die-hard on here.

    #2: I genuinely like rouleur style riders. Canc, Boonen, Hushovd (less so) etc. I like the way they race, I like the tactics they use. I like the fact they're the polar opposite of anything I can do on a bike. He's one of those.

    Beyond that, I'm not sure. I like his interviews, I like the little insights he gives. He's not too corporate, like, say, Cavendish. You won't get OTT gushing about how 'amazing' everything is, or rants that he's boring and it's his job, nor will you get footballer cliche ridden interiews either. He's a little prickly with criticism in an interesting way. Even the cocaine was an interesting human interest angle for me.

    Mainly though, I can't get enough of the way he rides classics.

    Roubaix '10 is a classic case in point. He was the only guy after Canc attacked who had the balls to try and chase. So much so he got jumped on the line and ended up 5th.

    You can say the same when O'Grady won in I think '07.

    I used to like that he boss Flanders at will, and then still outsprint guys like McEwen by sheer bike-breaking power.

    Probably helps he's good looking too.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
    Anyway, Boonen aside, how many stages has Cavendish won that aren't bunch sprints?

    He won a ToB prologue once didn't he?
  • LangerDan wrote:
    camerone wrote:
    I didn't know Boonen had won P-R 6 times..

    Nah - he's just indicating the number of years before he wins something again


    It's the signal to his dealer about how many grams are going to be needed for the night's party.

    And how old his new girlfriend is next birthday............ :oops:
  • Anyway, Boonen aside, how many stages has Cavendish won that aren't bunch sprints?

    He won a ToB prologue once didn't he?

    I couldn't tell you, I'd guess that the prologue is the only one though...
  • LangerDanLangerDan Posts: 6,132
    Anyway, Boonen aside, how many stages has Cavendish won that aren't bunch sprints?

    He won a ToB prologue once didn't he?

    I couldn't tell you, I'd guess that the prologue is the only one though...

    3 TTTs
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
    LangerDan wrote:
    Anyway, Boonen aside, how many stages has Cavendish won that aren't bunch sprints?

    He won a ToB prologue once didn't he?

    I couldn't tell you, I'd guess that the prologue is the only one though...

    3 TTTs

    Pfft.

    Any solo/small group victories or other ITT?
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  • moray_gubmoray_gub Posts: 3,328
    edited September 2011
    How many of those had Boonen won by 26 years old though ? I suspect Cav will be over a hundred by the time he hits 31.As for personality wise i always find Boonen a bit of a wooden top without anything real interesting to say, Cav on the other hand can be an opinionated censored with a prickly personality which wins for me every time
    Gasping - but somehow still alive !
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
    Moray Gub wrote:
    How many of those had Boonen won by 26 years old though ? I suspect Cav will be over a hundred by the time he hits 31.As for personality wise i always find Boonen a bit of a wooden top without anything real interesting to say, Cav on the other hand can be an opinionated censored with a prickly personality which wins for me every time.

    Oh you know I'm just teasing. You know, Boonen - Cav rivalry.
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