Where to buy KK Road Machine
mistertommyt
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I've done the usual Google searches, but does anyone know of somewhere that offers good deals on a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine?
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There's one on eBay at the moment for around £200 delivered. I got my Rock n Roll from Cycle Sense who I'd definitely deal with again. They were able to price match (was around £360), and delivered next day.
I think you're pretty much looking at £250 as your best price for a new road machine.0 -
That's good to know as I'm probably going to order from Cycle Sense, but just thought I'd check before pushing the button.
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No local bike shop where you are doing them? Where are you based?0
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We do these. Lots in winter, less so in the summer
http://www.thebikechain.co.uk/Kurt-Kine ... 010092809/0 -
Just bought one from www.vanillabikes.com Great service0
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Last year I bought one of the last of the KK Pro trainers that have a cam lock on one side and have the Pro flywheel (removable) as standard. Have put approx 200 hours on it. The Pro trainer is now discontinued, I believe. The new Road Machine is more or less the same if you buy the extra flywheel with it, though it doesn't have the cam lock.
I can't fault the trainer so far. I also bought one of the wired KK computers from the Bike Chain about six months ago. This has been slated by some users, but providing it is set up correctly (and you change the wheel magnet, the thread on which will not last five minutes) you should find it to be very dependable. And yes, I know the power readings it gives are not really power but speed, but regardless of whether these readings are a true reflection of your power they are very consistent from session to session and that is mainly what matters if you want to gauge your performance on the turbo over time.0 -
Timely post, I'm looking for one myself, whether it be used or new.0
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Thanks all. I ordered from Cycle Sense today for £260 with next day delivery. Nice guys on the phone and assuming it turns up on time all has been very smooth. Tomorrow evening should be rather painful!
ps I don't have a turbo tyre. Will it eat up a normal 23 road tyre?0 -
mistertommyt wrote:ps I don't have a turbo tyre. Will it eat up a normal 23 road tyre?
No, as long as you keep the tyre pumped up to at least 90psi and your wheel is true the tyre will last for ages. The roller will just make it shiny, that's all. I've had the same tyre on (a Rubino) since new. Other turbos I've tried aren't so kind on tyres, and they were a lot noisier.0 -
Zingzang wrote:mistertommyt wrote:ps I don't have a turbo tyre. Will it eat up a normal 23 road tyre?
No, as long as you keep the tyre pumped up to at least 90psi and your wheel is true the tyre will last for ages. The roller will just make it shiny, that's all. I've had the same tyre on (a Rubino) since new. Other turbos I've tried aren't so kind on tyres, and they were a lot noisier.
Ditto. Run mine at 100psi with the roller tension at 3 turns of the knob from initial tyre contact. Several years and a couple of thousand miles later, the tyre's a bit shiny but not particularly worn.
Zingzang, can you comment on the benefit of Pro vs. regular flywheel?0 -
rdt wrote:Zingzang wrote:mistertommyt wrote:
Zingzang, can you comment on the benefit of Pro vs. regular flywheel?
In essence I think the Pro flywheel's main benefit is that it gives a smoother ride than the standard one. Apart from when starting from a standstill or under sudden accelerations, it doesn't offer greater resistance (it's not meant to) and its extra rotating weight doesn't seem to help you to keep turning the cranks any easier when you are up to speed.
However it does seem to give you a more road-like experience. What I mean is that if you do stop pedalling momentarily you will coast more easily than with only the standard flywheel fitted, and accelerations are more laboured. In fact if you choose to do any kind of sprint intervals you don't really want to use the Pro flywheel as the tyre will slip on the roller under violent accelerations, even if you tension up the roller a lot against the wheel. So I tend to avoid the Pro flywheel if I am doing intervals of one minute's duration or less. But for long steady sessions or longer intervals the Pro flywheel is great.
If I understood the physics of flywheels and fluid resistance chambers I would be able to give a much more authoritative appraisal. Unfortunately I am woefully ignorant on these matters. Perhaps someone out there who knows about physics can give us a more decisive verdict (in layman's terms please) on the Pro as opposed to the standard flywheel, and say how the two flywheels will actually influence the ride rather than how one uninitiated user FEELS they do.0 -
Zingzang wrote:rdt wrote:Zingzang wrote:mistertommyt wrote:
Zingzang, can you comment on the benefit of Pro vs. regular flywheel?
In essence I think the Pro flywheel's main benefit is that it gives a smoother ride than the standard one. Apart from when starting from a standstill or under sudden accelerations, it doesn't offer greater resistance (it's not meant to) and its extra rotating weight doesn't seem to help you to keep turning the cranks any easier when you are up to speed.
However it does seem to give you a more road-like experience. What I mean is that if you do stop pedalling momentarily you will coast more easily than with only the standard flywheel fitted, and accelerations are more laboured. In fact if you choose to do any kind of sprint intervals you don't really want to use the Pro flywheel as the tyre will slip on the roller under violent accelerations, even if you tension up the roller a lot against the wheel. So I tend to avoid the Pro flywheel if I am doing intervals of one minute's duration or less. But for long steady sessions or longer intervals the Pro flywheel is great.
If I understood the physics of flywheels and fluid resistance chambers I would be able to give a much more authoritative appraisal. Unfortunately I am woefully ignorant on these matters. Perhaps someone out there who knows about physics can give us a more decisive verdict (in layman's terms please) on the Pro as opposed to the standard flywheel, and say how the two flywheels will actually influence the ride rather than how one uninitiated user FEELS they do.
It's how differently it felt that I was interested in, so thanks for that.
It's all moments of inertia and that, I=1/2mR^2, innit? Aaaggghhhh!0 -
Mistertommyt how you finding it? Tempted to order one from Cycle Sense myself...0
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Rob13 wrote:Mistertommyt how you finding it? Tempted to order one from Cycle Sense myself...
Great bit of kit. It's solid, smooth and quiet. I can see why they are so well regarded and am really pleased with the choice I made and Cycle Sense were really quick too.
Here's to a winter of pain :-)0
