When is it OK to like SMUT, PORN and FILTH?
DonDaddyD
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Family Guy, Inbetweeners, Spartacus Blood and Sand, True Blood.
Each have there special place in societies heart:
Family Guy is a symphony of casual racism, homophobia and filled balls deep with social taboo ranging from a pedophile to bestiality.
Inbetweeners is crude, vulgar and pushes the boundaries on many things, not least of which teenage boys dream of getting laid, masturbation and vulgar language.
Spartacus Blood and Sand and True Blood cannot be watched without needing to get laid and/or knock one out once most episodes have ended. One notch higher on the dial and you're watching porn, the hardcore stuff.
These TV shows are watched by millions enjoying social taboos. The shows are discussed openly and are recommended to those who do not watch them.
Do you enjoy them and if not why not?
If you do like them, are you happy to watch them with others, discuss, laugh and talk about them?
Why is it OK to enjoy TV shows like that but still get offended or take offense when people discuss sex or make a thread, jokingly, about sexual and social taboos?
Discuss.
Each have there special place in societies heart:
Family Guy is a symphony of casual racism, homophobia and filled balls deep with social taboo ranging from a pedophile to bestiality.
Inbetweeners is crude, vulgar and pushes the boundaries on many things, not least of which teenage boys dream of getting laid, masturbation and vulgar language.
Spartacus Blood and Sand and True Blood cannot be watched without needing to get laid and/or knock one out once most episodes have ended. One notch higher on the dial and you're watching porn, the hardcore stuff.
These TV shows are watched by millions enjoying social taboos. The shows are discussed openly and are recommended to those who do not watch them.
Do you enjoy them and if not why not?
If you do like them, are you happy to watch them with others, discuss, laugh and talk about them?
Why is it OK to enjoy TV shows like that but still get offended or take offense when people discuss sex or make a thread, jokingly, about sexual and social taboos?
Discuss.
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A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
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Family Guy & The Inbetweeners are v good. Partly because they push boundaries though.
Never seen Spartacus.
True Blood I find a bit hokey. Made it through S1 and S2 and then couldn't really be bothered. No amount of gratuitous anything will compensate for a weak underlying story in my book.
Now, what was the question?0 -
Why is it OK to enjoy TV shows like that but still get offended or take offense when people discuss sex or make a thread, jokingly, about sexual and social taboos?
Regarding "the thread" it breaks T&C's here doesn't it? as kids can read this site, whereas those programs are after the watershed and therefore is protecting kids.
People talk about sex etc all the time, a bike forum might not be the best place to do thatPurveyor of sonic doom
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Clever Pun wrote:Why is it OK to enjoy TV shows like that but still get offended or take offense when people discuss sex or make a thread, jokingly, about sexual and social taboos?
Regarding "the thread" it breaks T&C's here doesn't it? as kids can read this site, whereas those programs are after the watershed and therefore is protecting kids.
People talk about sex etc all the time, a bike forum might not be the best place to do that
Wow, really?
You see that high-ground was lost when a Cycling Plus editor participated in the Girls in lycra shorts thread. There are other threads littered across this website with adult themes to it.
I've long since thought that it isn't Bikeradar's online duty to protect kids and perhaps that responsibility should fall to the parents. Besides, if I'm old enough to use an online cycling forum chances are I'm looking at sex anyway.
As for being a bike forum, Cake Stop, Crudcatcher, Commuting Chat moots that point as those are made largely for the online communities to discuss everything BUT cycling it seems.
But back to the point. Why take such offense to said thread when sex surrounds daily.Food Chain number = 4
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Greg66 wrote:
Now, what was the question?
Why is it OK to enjoy TV shows like that but still get offended or take offense when people discuss sex or make a thread, jokingly, about sexual and social taboos?Food Chain number = 4
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I love a bit of sex and violence me, but that mtb thread was still just dull attention whoring from the girls and childish fawning in the every desperate hope that they might get laid from the boys.
PS. Why was I not told of this "Spartacus" thing earlier? Mmm, sexy Romans.0 -
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DonDaddyD wrote:Greg66 wrote:
Now, what was the question?
Why is it OK to enjoy TV shows like that but still get offended or take offense when people discuss sex or make a thread, jokingly, about sexual and social taboos?
Ah. Well I'm pretty hard to offend, so I have no qualms enjoying shows like that (assuming they are any good).0 -
Jonny_Trousers wrote:I love a bit of sex and violence me, but that mtb thread was still just dull attention whoring from the girls and childish fawning in the every desperate hope that they might get laid from the boys.
PS. Why was I not told of this "Spartacus" thing earlier? Mmm, sexy Romans.
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Theres a pretty big difference between the smut in Family Guy and that in the MTB thread.
Mainly irony.0 -
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DonDaddyD wrote:Family Guy is a symphony of casual racism, homophobia and balls deep in social taboo ranging from a paedophile to bestiality.
The 'casual racism and homophobia' is always used in a satirical way, though. It's written in the context of a fairly right wing, morally conservative country, and the characters parody this.
Never seen the Inbetweeners or any of the other stuff.
Vulgarity is fine if it's deployed with some wit. But like Greg66 said, if there's nothing behind it, then it becomes boring very quickly.
If you want some real filth, have a listen to The Good Ship Venus*
*Very much NSFW.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Family Guy I think is okay. I've no issues with the type of humour I just don't think it's particularly great. So yes to the type, but a no for me.
Inbetweeners is great fun. Pushes what's previously been mainstream but I don't think it's shocking, just well observed and well done.
Spartacus is complete rubbish. I enjoyed it. If Channel 5 did 'Rome' rather than BBC and HBO then they would have ended up with this. Tries to mix a bit of plot with the action but fails miserably and ends up with blood and tits. Still, enjoyed it.
True Blood. See Spartacus. Enjoyed it. Plot a little stronger than Spartacus but it's just soft porn with the plumber replaced with by vampires.0 -
Rjsterry (and others),
I think you are all missing the point.
Of course I enjoy family guy, true blood et al more than Kitty and Bint's thread. The point isn't even about the context in which the subject matter is delivered.
The point I'm making is that if people can stomach things like Family Guy and Inbetweeners then why demonstrate zero tolerance (to the point of being offended) towards a group of people discussing things of a similar nature?
I'm not saying you should like Kitty and Bint's thread as liking something is subjective. But what I don't understand is the zero tolerance for it when there are other glaring examples where people have enjoyed threads/topics/TV shows of a similar nature.
It's like not liking porn but enjoying a Spartacus sex scene - the one where the guy offered the slave "c*nt or coin" (and yes he did say that).Food Chain number = 4
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I don't think anyone said that Grill the Gash was offensive, just rubbish. That was my complaint anyway. Poor quality smut.0
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I don't think it was the subject matter that people found tedious (offensive is giving it too much credit). It just sounded like a load of teenagers hanging round the swings, drinking cider and bragging to each other. Inbetweeners manages to deal with that sort of subject matter in a funny way (so I'm told) so Gazlar, et al just need to try a bit harder.
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The above two posts say it all.
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DonDaddyD wrote:Clever Pun wrote:Why is it OK to enjoy TV shows like that but still get offended or take offense when people discuss sex or make a thread, jokingly, about sexual and social taboos?
Regarding "the thread" it breaks T&C's here doesn't it? as kids can read this site, whereas those programs are after the watershed and therefore is protecting kids.
People talk about sex etc all the time, a bike forum might not be the best place to do that
Wow, really?
You see that high-ground was lost when a Cycling Plus editor participated in the Girls in lycra shorts thread. There are other threads littered across this website with adult themes to it.
I've long since thought that it isn't Bikeradar's online duty to protect kids and perhaps that responsibility should fall to the parents. Besides, if I'm old enough to use an online cycling forum chances are I'm looking at sex anyway.
As for being a bike forum, Cake Stop, Crudcatcher, Commuting Chat moots that point as those are made largely for the online communities to discuss everything BUT cycling it seems.
But back to the point. Why take such offense to said thread when sex surrounds daily.
when you signed up isn't there something saying over 13 etc etc? The company as a magazine has a responsibility to remain 'decent' and as such use moderators. Maybe more in a do what I say not what I do kinda way. Starting linking to porn and you'll be banned... try it.
Dude, most of the topics in this sub forum are cycling related... except the ones you start, do you still even cycle?
Granted cake stop is all chat but is a sub-section of a much larger environment.
btw I've seen absolutely nothing here that offends me in any way... except a few peoples bikes...what were they thinking.Purveyor of sonic doom
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Personally, I'm not offended at all with that thread. Its just a bit banal. Funny that you think that the humour is somehow equivalent to that of Family Guy and the Inbetweeners. The Inbetweeners specifically is funny to me because it reminds me perfectly of what it was like to be an arrogant, horny, know-it-all teenager just before becoming an adult. Its excellent use of nostalgia that makes that programme great. Its pretty knowing. I don't enjoy it because it mirrors how I behave now, because at my age that would make me a massive tw*t. 0
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Clever Pun wrote:
Dude, most of the topics in this sub forum are cycling related... except the ones you start, do you still even cycle?
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12801706
Still I do see the funny side in that.Food Chain number = 4
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DonDaddyD wrote:Clever Pun wrote:
Dude, most of the topics in this sub forum are cycling related... except the ones you start, do you still even cycle?
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12801706
Still I do see the funny side in that.
your point?Purveyor of sonic doom
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Clever Pun wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:Clever Pun wrote:
Dude, most of the topics in this sub forum are cycling related... except the ones you start, do you still even cycle?
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12801706
Still I do see the funny side in that.
your point?
Would be my point.
Clearly it's not just the ones I start. But still.Food Chain number = 4
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DonDaddyD wrote:Clever Pun wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:Clever Pun wrote:
Dude, most of the topics in this sub forum are cycling related... except the ones you start, do you still even cycle?
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12801706
Still I do see the funny side in that.
your point?
Would be my point.
Clearly it's not just the ones I start. But still.
so you've stopped cycling then?Purveyor of sonic doom
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I'm not sure how that's relevant.Clever Pun wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:Clever Pun wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:Clever Pun wrote:
Dude, most of the topics in this sub forum are cycling related... except the ones you start, do you still even cycle?
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12801706
Still I do see the funny side in that.
your point?
Would be my point.
Clearly it's not just the ones I start. But still.
so you've stopped cycling then?
Is there a correlation between the amount of cycling and the type of threads that a person starts?Food Chain number = 4
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
DonDaddyD wrote:
I'm not sure how that's relevant.Clever Pun wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:Clever Pun wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:Clever Pun wrote:
Dude, most of the topics in this sub forum are cycling related... except the ones you start, do you still even cycle?
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12801706
Still I do see the funny side in that.
your point?
Would be my point.
Clearly it's not just the ones I start. But still.
so you've stopped cycling then?
Is there a correlation between the amount of cycling and the type of threads that a person starts?
Uh oh, it's reached that point in the DDD thread where he's got defensive. Thread done, thanks for coming everyone.
DDD, it was clearly a joke at the start. You start more non cycling related threads than anyone else, hence the facetious comment 'do you actually cycle?'. That was it, no drama :roll:0 -
dhope wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:
I'm not sure how that's relevant.Clever Pun wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:Clever Pun wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:Clever Pun wrote:
Dude, most of the topics in this sub forum are cycling related... except the ones you start, do you still even cycle?
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12801706
Still I do see the funny side in that.
your point?
Would be my point.
Clearly it's not just the ones I start. But still.
so you've stopped cycling then?
Is there a correlation between the amount of cycling and the type of threads that a person starts?
Uh oh, it's reached that point in the DDD thread where he's got defensive. Thread done, thanks for coming everyone.
DDD, it was clearly a joke at the start. You start more non cycling related threads than anyone else, hence the facetious comment 'do you actually cycle?'. That was it, no drama :roll:
exactly... so given this raw nerve it leads me to 1 of 2 conclusions
No actual cycling
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Clever Pun wrote:dhope wrote:
Uh oh, it's reached that point in the DDD thread where he's got defensive. Thread done, thanks for coming everyone.
DDD, it was clearly a joke at the start. You start more non cycling related threads than anyone else, hence the facetious comment 'do you actually cycle?'. That was it, no drama :roll:
exactly... so given this raw nerve it leads me to 1 of 2 conclusions
No actual cycling
Sand in the clunge
Oh come on! There's no need to all thread police'!!! I was having a laugh/battle of keyboard wits with the 'Ol'cycling viking'.
And trust me, I'm not so self absorbed to not know (i) the reputation and perception I have generated in this forum.
I probably make more threads (in general) than anyone. Moderator please confirm this claim?Food Chain number = 4
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As much as I wouldn't mind having my own personal clunge to play with. I don't. If i did it wouldn't have sand in it.
Ham, glove and a numb hand is about as close as it gets.
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A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
DonDaddyD wrote:As much as I wouldn't mind having my own personal clunge to play with. I don't. If i did it wouldn't have sand in it.
Ham, glove and a numb hand is about as close as it gets.
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