Police in Tesco's

bails87

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

This is particularly hard to swallow when you have an experience like Rick's where you really need the police to be around, yet they are not there to help you.!

But I doubt the officer in this case had anything to do with Rick's burglary investigation.

Did the cop act appropriately in this case? Yes.

Did different officers/control room staff (in an entirely different force?) get stuff wrong in the burglary? Yes.

One doesn't affect the other.

rick_chasey

Joelsim wrote:

Asprilla wrote:

Woah! Is everyone not missing the big picture here? He was in McDonalds! Good god man have you no shame that you have to bring your filthy perversions up for discussion on a family website!

Worse still in Tesco's. Just for the record, it should really be Tesco rather than Tesco's. And Tescos is wrong completely, in the same was that Asdas is and Wiggles is.

*sniff*

The sad old foreigner thought it was actually plural.

Tescos.

rick_chasey

bails87 wrote:

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

This is particularly hard to swallow when you have an experience like Rick's where you really need the police to be around, yet they are not there to help you.!

But I doubt the officer in this case had anything to do with Rick's burglary investigation.

Did the cop act appropriately in this case? Yes.

Did different officers/control room staff (in an entirely different force?) get stuff wrong in the burglary? Yes.

One doesn't affect the other.

That's not strictly true though is it?

If there's a finite amount of police time - it'd be better spent not hanging out at McDonalds checking out people's parking, right?

If I was running the police force (there'd be anarchy, but anyway), I'd bloody well tell them to focus on sh!t that actually affects lives. Not in theory, but actually. .

Start by sorting that sh!t out. Then you can worry about weather a bloke might in theory be harming himself if he might have a freak accident at 3mph in a carpark that catapults him through the windscreen.


And on the subject, does anyone know why I was stopped for carrying my water bottle in my left hand - waiting for a better time to have a sip?

Don't even get me started on their dynamo light faff.

joelsim

Tescos'

jonny_trousers

bails87 wrote:

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

This is particularly hard to swallow when you have an experience like Rick's where you really need the police to be around, yet they are not there to help you.!

But I doubt the officer in this case had anything to do with Rick's burglary investigation.

Did the cop act appropriately in this case? Yes.

Did different officers/control room staff (in an entirely different force?) get stuff wrong in the burglary? Yes.

One doesn't affect the other.

Well where perception of the police force at large is concerned it does.

I don't suppose anyone would argue that the basis for the OP's policeman's admonishment was wrong, but why couldn't he have said something like...

'Excuse me, I notice you were not wearing a seatbelt there?'

'Yeah, sorry, I know, but I was just coasting across the car park very slowly from McDonalds over there.'

'Sure, but this is still technically a public road, which means you are breaking the law and could be subject to a fine because of it. Just remember that you must wear your seatbelt every time that you drive in future, alright?'

'Yes officer; sorry officer.'

'Oh and by the way, you park like my mum.'

Bish, bash and bosh!

I'm just not a fan of the, treat-'em-like-a-cnut from the offset attitude some police officers seem to have.

Oh, and did I mention that a policeman once nicked my kebab?

mudcow007

afternoon...

right my parking thing was i parked my car an inch on the kerb which was next to my car as my Mrs has a bad knee so has to open the door really wide to get in and out and the car parked next to me had parked like a tool (wonky)

i didn't answer the Police dude sarcastically or anything, i just answered what he asked me

an before i get shouted at (if i haven't already) i think the Police do a fantastic job (sometimes) an its a job i wouldn't want to do so i doth my cap to them......but i unfortunately there are some people who get a wee bit arsey when they put on a uniform.....


i was so tempted to say to him "can i have a go of your sirens, oh please pretty please" but i wouldn't have thought it would go down to well

notsoblue

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

Oh, and did I mention that a policeman once nicked my kebab?

Go on....

bails87

Jonny_Trousers
But what was actually said wasn't really that different.

"You could be subject to a fine" = "That could have cost you £120".

And Rick Chasey
"If there's a finite amount of police time - it'd be better spent not hanging out at McDonalds checking out people's parking, right? "

True, but the officer was walking out of the shop (on his break?) and happened to see the law being broken. He dealt with it in about 20 seconds by the sound of it. He didn't call for back up, get the helicopter out or detain mudcow for 3 hours of questioning. Just essentially said "wear a seatbelt and don't park on the pavement".

greg66_tri_v2.0

bails87 wrote:

True, but the officer was walking out of the shop (on his break?) and happened to see the law being broken. He dealt with it in about 20 seconds by the sound of it. He didn't call for back up, get the helicopter out or detain mudcow for 3 hours of questioning. Just essentially said "wear a seatbelt and don't park on the pavement".

But it all sounds a little bit like the local parkkeeper pretending to be Judge Dredd, no? The "that could have cost you £120" is pretty classic Cartman "respect mah authori-tay!".

@mudcow: Don't suppose there was any reversing in your parking was there? You're allowed to unclip your seat belt to perform a manouevre that requires reversing, IIRC.

Not much good if the policeman had seen you beltless prior to the parking bit, obv.

rick_chasey

bails87 wrote:

Jonny_Trousers
But what was actually said wasn't really that different.

"You could be subject to a fine" = "That could have cost you £120".

And Rick Chasey
"If there's a finite amount of police time - it'd be better spent not hanging out at McDonalds checking out people's parking, right? "

True, but the officer was walking out of the shop (on his break?) and happened to see the law being broken. He dealt with it in about 20 seconds by the sound of it. He didn't call for back up, get the helicopter out or detain mudcow for 3 hours of questioning. Just essentially said "wear a seatbelt and don't park on the pavement".

But what is the value added of doing that?

Seriously. It just p!sses people off.

Think McNulty going to that corner and asking them where Omar was...

jonny_trousers

notsoblue wrote:

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

Oh, and did I mention that a policeman once nicked my kebab?

Go on....

It's really not that interesting. I'll get my coat.

rick_chasey

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

notsoblue wrote:

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

Oh, and did I mention that a policeman once nicked my kebab?

Go on....

It's really not that interesting. I'll get my coat.

You sure it wasn't a bribe, rather than theft?

NGale

heck emergency services really aren't allowed a break are they!

Maybe he was just on a lunch break and because police forces across the country are having to save money he has no canteen to go to because it's been closed down.

If I had a pound for the amount of times I had my ear bent at 7:30 in the morning for being in the local Tesco in uniform buying my breakfast I would be quite well off by now. One day I had enough when after an especially bad night shift and snapped at a women who demanded that I should be working because she paid me. I asked her where she was at 3 that morning when she was having to deal with a wife who had found her husband hanging and where she was when myself and my colleagues were dealing with non stop emergency calls because every idiot in the area decided to go on a drinking binge and get into fights.

Yes I needed a little attitude adjustment, but after a 12 hour night shift from hell I was a little tetchy.

It isn't necessarily what you say but how you say it.

rolf_f

King Jeffers wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

M'eh. Serves you right.

b) making a 60 second drive in the first place. Have you no legs?

So you expect him to leave his car parked up at McDonalds then later wheel his trolley across a busy industrial estate with a load of shopping, then wheel the trolley all the way back again? Very practical :-)

See! This is my point. Common sense seems to have been replaced by ingrained laziness. Not only can't people be bothered to walk anywhere, they can't be bothered to apply simple logic either.

So, my dear Watson. I expect the OP to park at Tescos and walk across to McCrapfoodthatpersonallyIwouldn'tdisgracemydustbinwith for his McVomit and therefore not have to wheel his trolley anywhere. It isn't hard

Or even better, not bother with McGarbage at all. I'm a bit out of touch as I've not been in a supermarket for over two years but I do believe they sell food. In all probability, there is something pudding related available in Tescos that avoids the need to go to McTurds at all!

bails87

Greg66 wrote:

But it all sounds a little bit like the local parkkeeper pretending to be Judge Dredd, no? The "that could have cost you £120" is pretty classic Cartman "respect mah authori-tay!".

Errr....except the officer could have chosen to give the fine, he wasn't threatening to use powers he didn't have. This is more like a park keeper pretending to be a...er...... park keeper.


This whole story is:
-Man breaks law
-Police officer sees this and tells man not to break law in future, warns man of potential punishment.
-Police officer chooses not to give out punishment that would have been within his power to administer.
End of story.

mudcow007

Rolf F wrote:

So, my dear Watson. I expect the OP to park at Tescos and walk across to McCrapfoodthatpersonallyIwouldn'tdisgracemydustbinwith for his McVomit and therefore not have to wheel his trolley anywhere. It isn't hard

Or even better, not bother with McGarbage at all. I'm a bit out of touch as I've not been in a supermarket for over two years but I do believe they sell food. In all probability, there is something pudding related available in Tescos that avoids the need to go to McTurds at all!

but McD's is on a hill so my poor legs would have been sore, plus my Tricross has been taken away to be mended so i have lost all my leg muscles too.....

Tescos do sell ice cream but not of the strawberry cornetto variety that Mc does mmmmm

cornerblock

@ mudcow007

Congratulations on 1000 posts. Treat yourself to a Happy Meal.

mudcow007

Cornerblock wrote:

@ mudcow007

Congratulations on 1000 posts. Treat yourself to a Happy Meal.

wahooo! I think it will be KFC tonight, i dont like to favour one fast food outlet, i like to spread the love

walkingbootweather

Got dragged out of Lidl the other week by the fuzz. (ouch)

Had taken the kids swimming on Saturday morning and get a message from Mrs wbw to get a few bits of shopping on the way home. Not worth stopping at big supermarket so pull up in parent & child space right in front of Lidl and think nothing of a Police Car parked up a few spaces away. 9 year old wants to come with me but 6 year old is tired and wants to wait in the car.

I'm on the 3rd aisle and exactly 7 mins into my shop (I had made a call on my mobile to check shopping requirements as I entered so can verify times) when a community police officer comes in and asks me to escort her outside (leaving the shopping with the 9 year old). Then get accused of abandoning the 6 year old by a real police officer waiting outside. Copper claims he had been watching the car for at least 15 mins and wondered how I'd feel if child had, and I quote, "been snatched like that McCann kid". I explain I would naturally be devastated but that I didn't think the risk of this was high. Doing a "spur of the moment" risk assessment I concluded that the risk of injury in dragging a tired and reluctant child along with me shopping was greater than leaving him happily sat in the car for 10 mins while I concluded the shop (and could see him from the end of each aisle). I asserted that I would not have left him alone for a long period, if it had been very hot, if I couldn’t have made frequent visual checks from inside the shop or if he had been in any way distressed.

No action was taken but I suspect my name is now on some police database. I have no problems with Police intervening when a child is distressed or at real risk, but I wasn't happy at what I felt was an unnecessary intervention, especially as the copper was factually incorrect with regards the timings.

I did ask the Officer how long he been in the Police (over 20 years), and how many child abductions he had dealt with in that time (er, none), but I stopped short of being too confrontational because a mere member of the public can never win such exchanges.

king_jeffers

mudcow007 wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

So, my dear Watson. I expect the OP to park at Tescos and walk across to McCrapfoodthatpersonallyIwouldn'tdisgracemydustbinwith for his McVomit and therefore not have to wheel his trolley anywhere. It isn't hard

Or even better, not bother with McGarbage at all. I'm a bit out of touch as I've not been in a supermarket for over two years but I do believe they sell food. In all probability, there is something pudding related available in Tescos that avoids the need to go to McTurds at all!

but McD's is on a hill so my poor legs would have been sore, plus my Tricross has been taken away to be mended so i have lost all my leg muscles too.....

Tescos do sell ice cream but not of the strawberry cornetto variety that Mc does mmmmm

haha Rolf F has a point... just think you could have burned off an extra bit of icy goodness on that walk... even more if you opted to carry all of your shopping by hand rather than use a trolley

will3

Bad mistake.
You should have replied that since you noticed a policeman observing the carpark you naturally assumed that any criminal activity would be dealt with accordingly and that, therefore, your child was safe.

will3

King Jeffers wrote:

mudcow007 wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

So, my dear Watson. I expect the OP to park at Tescos and walk across to McCrapfoodthatpersonallyIwouldn'tdisgracemydustbinwith for his McVomit and therefore not have to wheel his trolley anywhere. It isn't hard

Or even better, not bother with McGarbage at all. I'm a bit out of touch as I've not been in a supermarket for over two years but I do believe they sell food. In all probability, there is something pudding related available in Tescos that avoids the need to go to McTurds at all!

but McD's is on a hill so my poor legs would have been sore, plus my Tricross has been taken away to be mended so i have lost all my leg muscles too.....

Tescos do sell ice cream but not of the strawberry cornetto variety that Mc does mmmmm

haha Rolf F has a point... just think you could have burned off an extra bit of icy goodness on that walk... even more if you opted to carry all of your shopping by hand rather than use a trolley

come now, walk to macdonalds? That's hardly in the spirit of the place is it?

hfidgen

will3 wrote:

You should have replied that since you noticed a policeman observing the carpark you naturally assumed that any criminal activity would be dealt with accordingly and that, therefore, your child was safe.

+1

DonDaddyD

Police in Tesco's' means less police officers wrongfully attacking and shooting my brethren.

Be thankful that's all you got!

walkingbootweather

hfidgen wrote:

will3 wrote:

You should have replied that since you noticed a policeman observing the carpark you naturally assumed that any criminal activity would be dealt with accordingly and that, therefore, your child was safe.

+1

Good point. Well argued chaps.

Problem is you only ever think of these things after the event - and I was trying to walk that fine line between reasonable indignation and raving mad.

EKE_38BPM

Police in Tesco's what?

rick_chasey

EKE_38BPM wrote:

Police in Tesco's what?

Keep up at the back.

will3

Rick Chasey wrote:

EKE_38BPM wrote:

Police in Tesco's what?

Keep up at the back.

The worst of it is that they weren't "in" at all, they were outside

rolf_f

will3 wrote:

King Jeffers wrote:

mudcow007 wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

So, my dear Watson. I expect the OP to park at Tescos and walk across to McCrapfoodthatpersonallyIwouldn'tdisgracemydustbinwith for his McVomit and therefore not have to wheel his trolley anywhere. It isn't hard

Or even better, not bother with McGarbage at all. I'm a bit out of touch as I've not been in a supermarket for over two years but I do believe they sell food. In all probability, there is something pudding related available in Tescos that avoids the need to go to McTurds at all!

but McD's is on a hill so my poor legs would have been sore, plus my Tricross has been taken away to be mended so i have lost all my leg muscles too.....

Tescos do sell ice cream but not of the strawberry cornetto variety that Mc does mmmmm

haha Rolf F has a point... just think you could have burned off an extra bit of icy goodness on that walk... even more if you opted to carry all of your shopping by hand rather than use a trolley

come now, walk to macdonalds? That's hardly in the spirit of the place is it?

Arrrgh, apologies. I hadn't thought of that.

Still, less ice creams = more ability to walk up hills etc etc
And, at Mudcow - have you sampled all of the Tesco ice cream range to make sure that there isn't one that you might prefer to the McRoadkills? There you go - take that as a challenge

mr_poll

walkingbootweather wrote:

hfidgen wrote:

will3 wrote:

You should have replied that since you noticed a policeman observing the carpark you naturally assumed that any criminal activity would be dealt with accordingly and that, therefore, your child was safe.

+1

Good point. Well argued chaps.

Problem is you only ever think of these things after the event - and I was trying to walk that fine line between reasonable indignation and raving mad.

Not really a good point unless of course the police have suddenly became babysitters for people who find it a bit of a hassle taking a grumpy child shopping with them. I wouldnt be too happy if my 999 call was delayed as the bobby nearest to me was watching over your kid just in case which the logical conclusion of "your comeback" to a policeman who was just doing their job.
At the end of the day I am sure the McCanns made a risk assessment and checked on their kids regularly - the policeman had a point whether or not he had ever dealt with a child abduction is irrelevant.