Sad accident

Wallace1492

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-14606654

Looks like no vehicle involved... I think this is a small, fast road.

ndru

Sad.

He was wearing a helmet and yet... Good material for some anecdotal evidence.

dhope

ndru wrote:

Sad.

He was wearing a helmet and yet... Good material for some anecdotal evidence.

Stop trolling

ndru

Why would you deny me my little pleasures in life

Squarepants

^^ slightly inappropriate

Very sad news, must have been a heck of a fall..

Feltup

ndru wrote:

Why would you deny me my little pleasures in life

Read the news article and think about it... then maybe you will get why this is in bad taste.

Condolences to all those left behind by the fallen rider.

gilesjuk

dhope wrote:

ndru wrote:

Sad.

He was wearing a helmet and yet... Good material for some anecdotal evidence.

Stop trolling

I partly agree that it's probably not the time and place. But I also agree that the more people can do to illustrate how useless cycle helmets are the better. If only so that car drivers realise that knocking off a cyclist with a helmet is pretty much as likely to cause death or injury as a cyclist without one.

Going back to the story, I suspect given it was a fast steep hill that it was an "over the bars" accident and there's little a helmet can do to prevent injury or death caused by a face plant. Full face would help but they're too heavy.

dhope

gilesjuk wrote:

dhope wrote:

ndru wrote:

Sad.

He was wearing a helmet and yet... Good material for some anecdotal evidence.

Stop trolling

I partly agree that it's probably not the time and place. But I also agree that the more people can do to illustrate how useless cycle helmets are the better. If only so that car drivers realise that knocking off a cyclist with a helmet is pretty much as likely to cause death or injury as a cyclist without one.

Going back to the story, I suspect given it was a fast steep hill that it was an "over the bars" accident and there's little a helmet can do to prevent injury or death caused by a face plant. Full face would help but they're too heavy.

And yet there's the anecdotal evidence from a guy who totalled his Cervelo in the Nocturne and split the helmet he was wearing in two, though head intact.

There is no argument and nobody that makes the argument that a helmet protects from all impacts.
The argument that a helmet never protects in any situation is equally stupid.

The notion that car drivers think it's okay to knock a cyclist under a bus if they're wearing a helmet is idiotic and the people that assert it just so. :roll:

Would do if both sides would GrowTFU

bails87

Condolences to the family, another sad bit of news, unusual for there not to be other vehicles involved though.

meanredspider

FFS - we've no idea (from that report) what "head injuries" he sustained and yet it's become some helmet debate. Not only is it in bad taste it's also based on absolutely no information at all. Ayrton Senna died from head injuries whilst wearing an F1 helmet - I doubt anybody is suggesting they are useless. Let's move on from the helmet debate and just feel sorry for the guy and the people he's left behind...

RIP

The Rookie

A Hlemet debate in this thread is in incredably (in the proper sense of the word) poor taste, condolences to loved ones.

Simon

Keep the firkin helmet debates for appropriate threads!

whyamihere

If this turns into yet another helmet debate I'll be locking it.

MonkeyMonster

Sad day indeed. Friend of brother (in law) had a bad accident few weeks back with no cars (seemingly) in similar circumstances of flat (normally unused) road - was knocked out for good few hours, ripped face, head etc and still has retina issues. Can't remember a thing at all - went back couple of weeks later and found basically bits of himself and more than a fair bit of blood still on the road. Bike was fine though.

Thoughts with family

Wallace1492

You can get some high speeds on some of these small roads, so he may well have been travelling at pretty high speed, plus the nature of remote roads means there can be grit and other debris/potholes all over the place.

Very sad, condolences to family and friends.
Stay safe on country roads... speed is not always your friend.

Kieran_Burns

The thing I find on the country roads are the islands of gravel that simply do not go. (especially on the spray tar sections)

I've nearly come a cropper on a couple of these and the sudden loss of traction is VERY scary.

Unfortunately at any kind of speed, all it takes is some lateral movement on one of these sections for you to lose it completely.

I adopted motorway driving techniques after my near-offs (distant scan, near scan, distant scan, near scan)

First.Aspect

The accident happened on a pretty challenging bit of road. It is a 1,400ft descent from open moor land down through a narrow shaded, damp and extremely steep section between trees and into a series of very sharp hairpins.

It is the sort of road absolutely loved by people who love cycling, and I've driven up from Edbug myself just to cycle in that area in the past. So he was probably doing something he loved somewhere he really wanted to be, and that is indeed very sad.

Fireblade96

RIP and my thoughts are with those left behind.

Twisterboy

Thoughts and Prayers are with the family at this sad time.

David

dhope

previous

Apologies, wasn't attempting to turn anything into another helmet debate, was trying to say that to bring up the helmet debate was childish (hence my original trolling comment).