thieving scum, please stop trying to nick my bike

jimpy
jimpy Posts: 31
edited August 2011 in MTB general
i have had my bike stolen in the last two months, my riding buddy had his stolen last night. both were stolen one night after riding at cwmcarn (conspiracy theory anyone ??) i now have my garage connected to the house alarm, a gold standard floor anchor and a gold standard motorbike lock. inspite of all this, scumbags still had a good crack at my garage trashing the side door. talking to the police their opinion was that the thieves will be back now they have clocked my new bike. and more than likely they will find a way to rob it. any crafty security advice would be appreciated. i am thinking of a scooby doo style trap, involving a pit covered in convincing foliage or some kind of automated tar and feathering device.

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    put it in the house.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Unfortunately, a camera will not stop them stealing anything, it just means you'll have a blurry video of someone hiding their face, carrying your bike away.
    Stick it in the house, and make sure it's ensured, so if it does go walkies, you can get another one.
  • kdawg74
    kdawg74 Posts: 271
    +1 for above, funny as hell
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  • j_l
    j_l Posts: 425
    This http://www.white-safe.de/white-safe/en/ ... action.php

    Alternativly, stronger doors/ better alarm system.

    It all depends howmuch you want to spend keeping your bike safe.

    More money = better security

    or one of these

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    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
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  • DCR00
    DCR00 Posts: 2,160
    in the house
  • One day I hope someone will put a post where the police will have said

    "We think they will come back and try and steal your bike again, we're going to wait and arrest them, we take great satisfaction from removing scum bags from the streets and doing our jobs properly"

    Unfortunately I think the collective breaths of the entire bikeradar community aren't quite long enough for that.
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  • bellys
    bellys Posts: 456
    mine are in the house...next to my dogs bed.
  • Ryan Jones
    Ryan Jones Posts: 775
    Keep the cannondale in my bedroom, it's the safest place for it to be. Either way I'd love to acquire some bike tracking equipment so I could nail the b**tards myself :twisted:
  • dubmodder
    dubmodder Posts: 100
    I have 4 bikes in our bedroom, the Mrs doesn't like it but that's life.
  • JonnyN
    JonnyN Posts: 181
    dubmodder wrote:
    I have 4 bikes in our bedroom, the Mrs doesn't like it but that's life.

    Stick her in the shed?
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    jimpy wrote:
    i have had my bike stolen in the last two months, my riding buddy had his stolen last night. both were stolen one night after riding at cwmcarn (conspiracy theory anyone ??)
    Have heard stories of the local Chavs (do the Welsh have Chavs?) or likewise scum from Bristol who set up watch on Cwmcarn, follow people home and then take the bikes at their leisure.

    Probably just wild tales, but you never know. After all, even with the hassle involved following someone home even all the way over the bridge and hundred miles or so, it's costing them a tank of petrol and they get to nick a bike costing a few £k having been shown where they keep the bike, or when they stop at a service station.
  • Taking The Northern Monkey's suggestion one stage further, and in all seriousness connect the motion sensor to a solenoid connected to a CO2 fire extinguisher fixed just above the door.

    Believe me, the noise and smoke will scare the pants off of even the most hardened thieves.

    Just remember to disarm it when you're around though!

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  • Cheshley
    Cheshley Posts: 1,448
    Ryan Jones wrote:
    Keep the cannondale in my bedroom, it's the safest place for it to be. Either way I'd love to acquire some bike tracking equipment so I could nail the b**tards myself :twisted:

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  • House is by far the best bet. I've got a keller inside our building, behind a steel door which I keep my bike in, but unfortunately that's not so common in the UK.
  • I remember a job we had years ago which involved a a motorbike dealer who when he had sold new bikes he was then selling the details to the local scumbags, ie what bike address etc etc. It does go on.
    Also how many cops would we need if we said everytime " yes we will sit in your garage and wait for them " just not gonna happen i am afraid.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Just remembered,

    The police recommend you register you stuff at www.immobilise.com

    Also mentions for bikes that you can get RFID tagging to trace the bike. Only any use if the bike turns up somewhere and is suspected to be stolen though and they can then scan for the tag.
  • Best bet is to rig up a basic mains-powered burglar alarm system in your garage. Nothing eleborate, just need a PIR sensor looking at where the bike stands and perhaps a door sensor on each door - they only cost a few quid a pop. Conceal the wiring and fit the siren on an outside wall as high up as possible. Most systems have a battery in the siren box and a tamper circuit in the wiring, so if the wire gets cut the thing goes off.

    Make sure your garage doors are an utter b***ard to get through. Got a side door? Then use that as your own main access door and padlock the main garage doors internally - ordinary up-and-over garage doors have lousy locks that are dead easy to defeat from outside. If you only have an up-and-over door (like wot I have) then fit a good heavy-duty padlock and hasp at the bottom of it, bolted into the concrete with the bolts concealed behind the door.

    For side doors and/or side-hinged main doors, again fit a beefy padlock and hasp as well as a 5-lever mortice lock if possible. Also use heavy-duty concealed hinges. Wooden doors and frames can be quite easily reinforced with angle iron.

    Then, fit AT LEAST TWO beefy ground anchors, make sure the fixing bolts are good and tight then either round the heads off with a grinder or weld 'em down so that no spanner in the world will undo them.

    Finally, use two separate, strong locks to attach your bike to the ground anchors.

    When Mr Thieving C**t breaks in, he will first have to get through your door locks. Most casual thieves can't be arsed making much effort and noise and will probably give up at this point. However, any that are determined enough to get through will (a) make a racket getting in, and (b) once they get in, will find the alarm makes even more racket, drawing lots of unwanted attention to his presence. And the multiple locks and ground anchors are there specifically to make it a long, drawn-out, noisy, difficult, pain-in-the-arse of a job to get the bike away. He won't want to hang about cutting chains and picking locks when there's every chance of an angry bloke in a dressing gown bursting through the door waving a 3-foot crowbar, so he will instead probably choose to f**k off back under whatever rock he crawled out from underneath.

    (And if he doesn't, well, just remember to use that crowbar. Head shots are likely to kill and thus land you on a murder charge; instead, go for the shoulders and collarbone to incapacitate him, cable-tie his hands and feet, put a kitchen knife in his hand and call the police. After all, the dude came at you with a knife; being in the garage you grabbed the nearest thing with which to defend yourself... :twisted: )
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  • piquet
    piquet Posts: 83
    One day I hope someone will put a post where the police will have said

    "We think they will come back and try and steal your bike again, we're going to wait and arrest them, we take great satisfaction from removing scum bags from the streets and doing our jobs properly"

    Unfortunately I think the collective breaths of the entire bikeradar community aren't quite long enough for that.

    Someone tried to get into my garage (end of garden) a few weeks ago - climbed in over fence moving something in process ans opened gate to leave.

    I emailed the local Community Safety team with a "heads up" as there have been a spate of garage break ins and burglaries recently. Later the same day 2 CSOs arrived to check over the scene and give security advice.*

    Well done Met Police

    * Not needed: Reinforced door, frame bolts, 5 lever lock, gold secure ground anchors and Motorbike security chains were already in place.

    * .
  • deadkenny wrote:
    jimpy wrote:
    i have had my bike stolen in the last two months, my riding buddy had his stolen last night. both were stolen one night after riding at cwmcarn (conspiracy theory anyone ??)
    Have heard stories of the local Chavs (do the Welsh have Chavs?) or likewise scum from Bristol who set up watch on Cwmcarn, follow people home and then take the bikes at their leisure.

    Probably just wild tales, but you never know. After all, even with the hassle involved following someone home even all the way over the bridge and hundred miles or so, it's costing them a tank of petrol and they get to nick a bike costing a few £k having been shown where they keep the bike, or when they stop at a service station.

    Had my bikes stolen in April, i ride Cwmcarn every week and I am convinced I was folllowed home, bikes were then stolen whilst i was working a night shift.

    Bike now stored in work under lock and key.
  • I feel for you buddy. Not nice to feel victimised like that.
    Three months ago, I had four of my bikes stolen. They cut through kryptonite locks, busted my ground anchor and ripped apart my shed door to by pass the three deadbolts.

    They stole my Evil Sovereign with Rohloff...Intense Tazer HT, Cannondale Killer V 500 and £3k Verenti Rhigos.01. One year previously (almost to the week), I had four bikes stolen from the same location. That time, was £12k worth, including my £7k Knolly Delirium T. Gutted.

    My new bikes now live INSIDE the flat. I can't trust leaving them outside anymore. Shame. Makes you think you live in a rubbish area.
  • I feel for you buddy. Not nice to feel victimised like that.
    Three months ago, I had four of my bikes stolen. They cut through kryptonite locks, busted my ground anchor and ripped apart my shed door to by pass the three deadbolts.

    They stole my Evil Sovereign with Rohloff...Intense Tazer HT, Cannondale Killer V 500 and £3k Verenti Rhigos.01. One year previously (almost to the week), I had four bikes stolen from the same location. That time, was £12k worth, including my £7k Knolly Delirium T. Gutted.

    My new bikes now live INSIDE the flat. I can't trust leaving them outside anymore. Shame. Makes you think you live in a rubbish area.
  • Keep my Canyon, road bike and trials bike in y bedroom now. Girlfriend hates it. Told her she'd hate me more if any of them got stolen.
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  • captainfly
    captainfly Posts: 1,001
    Motion sensing cctv camera and one of these http://www.electricfence-online.co.uk/shop/electric-fencing/energisers-mains-powered/12v-mains-electric-fence-energise-346430.html hooked up to the doorhandle just to show the thieves what kind of sense of humour you've got :roll:
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  • madmossy
    madmossy Posts: 42
    Mmm a concealed GPS tracker would be ideal, hidden in the seat tube near the bottom bracket with an antenna wire leading somewhere :)
  • diy
    diy Posts: 6,473
    I have found sound bombs to be quite effective, sadly you can't get them over 120db any more, but a couple of them located near your bike are gonna be blimin annoying for the thief.

    see:
    http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TSSB2.html