Spoke pattern/length

ddraver
ddraver Posts: 26,691
edited August 2011 in MTB workshop & tech
Hi all

I'm trying to replace a spoke (Mavic XM819 on Hope Pro II) and an estimation with a 2 cross pattern gave me 252mm which is just too short to enter the nipple (!!) (I used - http://www.prowheelbuilder.com/spokelengthcalculator/)

Trying a 3 cross pattern gives me 8 more mm but I can only see 2 spoke crosses on the wheel

I'm sure this is stupid noob question but WTF?

Thanks
DaveK
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Comments

  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Is there a small 'cross' right next to the spoke elbow as it exits the hub flange? Many miss this one.

    Make sure you put in the number of spokes too ;-)
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    supersonic wrote:
    Is there a small 'cross' right next to the spoke elbow as it exits the hub flange? Many miss this one.


    Oooooohhhhh yyyeeeeaaaahhhh :?

    ahem, thanks Sonic :oops:
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    So I actually need an average of 161mm (range something like 160.7 to 162.3) - is it best to go 1mm shorter or longer?
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    what length nipples are you going to use?

    I generally go shorter.
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    161 sounds 100 too short!
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    Mmm and 261 is not the average.

    258-260 for a front 32 spokes

    259 for the rear.

    and 256ish for as 36 spoke build 255/256 ish


    :wink:
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    Sonic is right, 261mm

    Nick i still get about 261 with an XM819 Disc and a pro ii hub, 32 spoken, 3 cross??
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    front or rear? and what hub dims. are you using? your own or the ones in the program?
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    Program...

    Front and rear seem to give similar results, which is sending up a little red flag I admit!
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    similar lengths front and rear is not odd, in fact it is quite common. but what is odd is your 261mm

    on a front I get results

    Left spoke length: 258.3

    Right spoke length: 260.1
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    WTF? I get 260.7 and 262.2
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