First puncture advice needed, please!

Secteur
Secteur Posts: 1,971
edited August 2011 in Road beginners
Had my first puncture today - my Schwalbe Ultremo ZX HD from their top-of-the-line range have only done about 100 miles, so more down to bad luck than poor tyres, I hope!

Anyway, the puncture was right through the armoured tread part.

I have replaced the inner-tube, but when pumped up, the gash sort of opens up - see photo. *EDIT - the gash is through-and-through and can be seen from the inside of the tyre, but it's only 1-2mm at most)*

Am I ok to carry on with this tyre, or am I likely to get further punctures as grit gets into the gash? You cant see the inner tube, and it's only tiny, but I imagine it could easily allow passage of debris under rolling pressure...

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  • andy46
    andy46 Posts: 1,666
    Personally I'd chuck it in the bin mate.
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  • Paul E
    Paul E Posts: 2,052
    edited August 2011
    Deflate it, stick a little bit of superglue in the slit and hold it together till it sets, that should help it hold together
  • garrynolan
    garrynolan Posts: 560
    New tyre... bad luck.
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  • Secteur
    Secteur Posts: 1,971
    Bugger.

    Only been out with them a handful of times, and they were £35 each!
  • Daerve
    Daerve Posts: 33
    With the sort of pressures you'll be using that tyre is only fit for the bin I'm afraid.

    You could try fixing it but you'll just keep getting puncture after puncture.
  • gkerr4
    gkerr4 Posts: 3,408
    personally i'd carry on riding on it - tyres get those sort of cuts all the time (albeit, that is on the larger side of the typical ones)
    the superglue idea is a good one - it holds the tyre together.
  • gkerr4
    gkerr4 Posts: 3,408
    it's ridiculous that a tyre of that value can go like that to be honest - a lot of small cars use tyres which are cheaper than that! - if they gave up after 100miles imagine the outcry!
  • Peddle Up!
    Peddle Up! Posts: 2,040
    andy46 wrote:
    Personally I'd chuck it in the bin mate.

    +1 but I'd raise it with the manufacturer too.
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  • Secteur
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    Have ordered a new tyre and have emailed Schwalbe just to let them know.

    Cycling just keeps getting more & more expensive!

    Cheers.
  • Escadrille Ecosse
    Escadrille Ecosse Posts: 164
    Superglue. It was invented for glueing rubber. if you want a bit more re-assurance stick a puncture repair patch on the inside.

    Realise you've bought a new tyre but if you do a repair then you've got the old one as a spare.
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  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    gkerr4 wrote:
    it's ridiculous that a tyre of that value can go like that to be honest - a lot of small cars use tyres which are cheaper than that! - if they gave up after 100miles imagine the outcry!

    I couple of years ago I drove over a screw on my way home from having new tyres fitted to my car. Amazingly, I didn't feel the need to complain to the manufacturer, the garage or the Daily Mail - instead I simply noted that "sh!t happens".
  • Secteur
    Secteur Posts: 1,971
    Will have a bash at repairing it now but tbh I dont even have any superglue and no local shops - dont fancy driving all the way out to town.

    Bit fed up - it ended a nice bike ride when I was only about 20% in.

    Also had planned a 3 hour ride tomorrow to my in-laws house.

    Will just have to not cycle AGAIN* until the tyre arrives.



    * bike been back to the LBS multiple times for noises which they cant fix, also knee injuries and then got knocked off the bike. All in all, I spend more time unable to cycle than able to. Bah!
  • MrChuck
    MrChuck Posts: 1,663
    P_Tucker wrote:
    gkerr4 wrote:
    it's ridiculous that a tyre of that value can go like that to be honest - a lot of small cars use tyres which are cheaper than that! - if they gave up after 100miles imagine the outcry!

    I couple of years ago I drove over a screw on my way home from having new tyres fitted to my car. Amazingly, I didn't feel the need to complain to the manufacturer, the garage or the Daily Mail - instead I simply noted that "sh!t happens".

    +1

    Regardless of how good your tyres are, there's something out there that can get through and whether you run over it on the 10th mile or the 3,000th mile is just one of those things.

    Still sucks though!
  • desweller
    desweller Posts: 5,175
    I'd not be bothered about that. Have happily ridden thousands of miles on tyres with small cuts like that in them. I think you (admittedly after being prompted by posters on here) are overreacting massively.
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  • Secteur
    Secteur Posts: 1,971
    Well, either way, a new tyre is in the post, so I will keep one as a spare should I get a major tyr failure in the future - at least I will always have one in the garage.

    Thanks for the advice either way.

    Just bad luck, I'm sure, as they came out best in the recent Cycling Plus review.
  • iandennis
    iandennis Posts: 238
    With all your bad luck maybe you should just buy a car :D

    Seriously hope you get the bike fixed and tyre sorted. I've been completely happy with my Secteur Elite, no problems in the first 700 miles that i've used it for commuting.
  • Secteur
    Secteur Posts: 1,971
    Well, just put a quick 12 miles on it with no problems, so we'll see how it goes.

    Cheers.
  • smurfylicious
    smurfylicious Posts: 96
    edited August 2011
    Just checked and my front tyre has 4 cuts of around that size and rear tyre has 5. No p*nct*res on either tyre yet. Both tyres were fitted at the same time but the rear tyre is wearing a little thin and losing some of its curvature due to ~5000 miles of being the 'drive' tyre. I'd just ignore that one small cut and carry on#.



    # Actually, I'm gonna edit my post to say that none of the cuts on my tyres go all the way through the casing. I know that because I just took both tyres off to use on a different pair of wheels. If your cut goes all the way through you may not want to just 'carry on' as I suggested above.
  • Paul E
    Paul E Posts: 2,052
    I wouldnt worry for a small nick like that, unless its a hole where the inner tube is bulging through or the entire tyre is bulging out.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    +1 superglue and get on with it.
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  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    Secteur wrote:
    Have ordered a new tyre and have emailed Schwalbe just to let them know.

    Cycling just keeps getting more & more expensive!

    Cheers.

    to be fair as you say those are high end, performance at 200g with fast rolling rubber, it's race rubber being fast and light. Not what most small cars tyres will be like, they are much like the Marathon tyres.

    it's staggering how good race tyres are but they do have limits and superglue!
  • mouth
    mouth Posts: 1,195
    get a piece of old tyre, or toothpaste tube or plastic or something like and glue it on the inside of they tyre where the hole is.

    As for not riding, I sprained my ankle about 7 weeks ago, just after getting my new bike and could hardly walk for three weeks never mind ride. Still sore now but manageable. At the hospital they said I'd have been better breaking it because it's have healed quicker. After a long ride (ie more than my commute) its sore the next day. Feel for you man.
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  • phiadad
    phiadad Posts: 94
    hii, if you are not racing on your Ultremo zx,you could be better served with Ultemo DD next time
  • NWLondoner
    NWLondoner Posts: 2,047
    phiadad wrote:
    hii, if you are not racing on your Ultremo zx,you could be better served with Ultemo DD next time


    I had the Ultemo DD. Got a puncture that went straight thru the casing/belt and ruined it. Again not many KM,s on them
  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    Sweet Jesus. No tyre that's filled with air is immune from punctures. If you are unfortunate enough to ride across superman's razor 10 minutes after fitting your new tyres, then end of tyre - be it a 240g racing tub or a 1kg rubber behemoth
  • Secteur
    Secteur Posts: 1,971
    I love this forum!

    Bought some superglue, and the gash is now invisible - the superglue seems to have melted the wound together and you cant see it at all!

    I also put a puncture repair patch on the inside, and it's as good as new!

    So needn't have bought another tyre, but as I'm getting new wheels soon it will go on one of those!
  • mouth
    mouth Posts: 1,195
    Secteur wrote:
    I love this forum!

    Bought some superglue, and the gash is now invisible - the superglue seems to have melted the wound together and you cant see it at all!

    I also put a puncture repair patch on the inside, and it's as good as new!

    So needn't have bought another tyre, but as I'm getting new wheels soon it will go on one of those!

    Always worth having a spare around as you never know when you will ride over a razor blade or something.
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