How do I remove headset cups?

Darra8
Darra8 Posts: 721
edited August 2011 in MTB workshop & tech
Hi,

Just bought an Inbred frame that has a cups already fitted and would like to swap to a better quality headset.

Is it possible to remove the cups without the proper tools?

Also, can I install using some large washers and threaded rod?

Thanks,

Steve
40 year old pussy who "still" hates the thought of falling off!!

Comments

  • 1mancity2
    1mancity2 Posts: 2,355
    Look inside the headtube you should be able to see the headset cups, it is posible to use a piece of wood to gentle tap the cup out, move around the cup and gentle tap, it will pop out eventually.
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  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    Also, can I install using some large washers and threaded rod?


    Depends on the headset and its relative cost.

    £100 headset, I'd use proper tools all round -perhaps a 10-20 job just to fit, but might do free or cheaper if you buy from the shop.

    30 quid one, I'd give it a go yourself with washers and wood, but it can depend on the the cups.
  • getonyourbike
    getonyourbike Posts: 2,648
    I use my persuader* for this job, both to get them out and install new ones

    *big hammer
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    As above big hammer and screwdriver to get them out, hammer and bit of wood to whack them in.
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  • tsenior
    tsenior Posts: 664
    weirdly i was trying to make some tools for this job last night out of bits lying around in the garage.

    for removal I am trying a length of alu pipe with slits cut in it so can deform as you push in but springs back to catch the lip of the cup

    and a press made out of one of those things you use to attach a ladder to your roofrack

    am going to try them out tonight

    alternatively yes the hammer.
  • diy
    diy Posts: 6,473
    IME of doing this a press is always better and easier to control. You just need the biggest nut and bolt you can find and some lumps of wood with holes drilled in
  • 1mancity2
    1mancity2 Posts: 2,355
    you can also push them home if you have a vice but place a piece of wood on each cup before you start clamping, also easier to do one at a time.
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  • Darra8
    Darra8 Posts: 721
    Thanks Guys.

    Steve
    40 year old pussy who "still" hates the thought of falling off!!
  • I use a wooden mallet, find it more than acceptable, also good for taking cranks off :)
  • HandjobDan
    HandjobDan Posts: 704
    I have installed all my headsets with a piece of threaded bar and 4 2" square washers, 2 each end stops them deforming and making sure they go in even. Make sure you properly grease te headtube and cup ro help it slide in. You can also add a 1/18 diameter round washer to help seay the cups centrally, all for a under a £10 from B&Q including spare bars and a couple of extra nuts.

    I wouldn't do a hammer and wood as you might put them in wonky. Any piece of pipe or wood and a rubber mallet will get them out but may not be reusable.
  • tsenior
    tsenior Posts: 664
    update,

    the ladder roof rack; one of these

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Universal-Roof- ... B000NWJQ64

    was perfect and i guess plenty of people have them knocking about


    ideally just need a couple of washers OD larger than the headset.
  • UncleMonty
    UncleMonty Posts: 385
    I made my own press with heavy duty washers & threaded bar, it worked ok but I found it hard to get the cups in straight to start with, I resorted to a plank of wood and a mallet to get it started - then used my press to push down and seat it.