Cav on BBC

Cleat Eastwood
Cleat Eastwood Posts: 7,508
edited August 2011 in Pro race
the enfant terrible de sprint..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14370974
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  • Bronzie
    Bronzie Posts: 4,927
    Also did a 40 minute interview and phone-in on 5-Live with Anita Anand........should be on listen again soon if you missed it.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/radio/bbc_ ... e/20110802
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  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    The black guy doing the interview was crap. So crap that the two main presenters had to take over,
  • durhamwasp
    durhamwasp Posts: 1,247
    interesting on 5Live when he said he made his decision on Saturday about who he will be racing for next season.
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  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    The radio interview was well worth listening to. Thanks for the link.
  • Herbsman
    Herbsman Posts: 2,029
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    The black guy doing the interview was crap. So crap that the two main presenters had to take over,
    Are the two main presenters black or white?
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  • Herbsman
    Herbsman Posts: 2,029
    Or somewhere inbetween?
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  • campagone
    campagone Posts: 270
    I dont think Cav's the most natural speaker, whenever I see him do an interview I tend to cringe, appart from when he's just won a sprint and getting interviewed, then he sounds quite normal, but if it's with a non cycling related reporter its a bit painful to watch, sports personality of the year for example.
  • derbygrimpeur
    derbygrimpeur Posts: 822
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    The black guy doing the interview was crap. So crap that the two main presenters had to take over,

    he's always dreadful when it comes to cycling. During the Tour he made so many mistakes. At least the other sports presenters BBC have are more rounded in their knowledge of sport. This chap only seems to know about football.
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    What i like about Cav is when he gets speaking about his job you can see the passion. I reckon he'd talk for hours once he gets going.
  • derbygrimpeur
    derbygrimpeur Posts: 822
    campagone wrote:
    I dont think Cav's the most natural speaker, whenever I see him do an interview I tend to cringe, appart from when he's just won a sprint and getting interviewed, then he sounds quite normal, but if it's with a non cycling related reporter its a bit painful to watch, sports personality of the year for example.

    I agree, although I think he came across reasonably well on BBC Breakfast. There's a video clip on the BBC website of what must have been a radio interview, there were a few times where Cav gave a one word answer said "erm", paused a second and before he could expand further (which you could tell he was about to) the radio presenter jumped in. On TV it's not so bad to pause because the audience can see you thinking or about to speak, radio's a bit more tricky though.
  • Happiness1982
    Happiness1982 Posts: 51
    Herbsman wrote:
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    The black guy doing the interview was crap. So crap that the two main presenters had to take over,
    Are the two main presenters black or white?
  • derbygrimpeur
    derbygrimpeur Posts: 822
    Herbsman / Happiness1982 > What's up with you PC police? It was a way for TMR to distinguish the presenter from the other two. There were two males, one black one white. In the absence of knowing their names what's up with saynig "black presenter". It wasn't done in a derogatory way, unless you think TMR was implying he was a crap presenter because of the colour of his skin, in which case you are mental.
  • pb21
    pb21 Posts: 2,171
    The question is, if the roles had been reversed, would he have said...

    ‘the white guy doing the interview was rubbish’

    Or would he have said...

    ‘the guy doing the interview was rubbish’

    In fact, why didn’t he just say anyway regardless of who was doing it...

    ‘the guy doing the interview was rubbish’

    In the first place, surely that would be enough to distinguish him from the guy not doing the interview? It obviously wasn’t a overtly racist thing to say though. However to what extent though was the colour of the interviewers skin relevant to how good or bad Mad Rapper thought he was though?
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  • derbygrimpeur
    derbygrimpeur Posts: 822
    not really. The guy who, in theory, wasn't doing the interview, probably did more of the interview than the guy that should have been doing the interview.

    We have no way of knowing whether he'd have said "white guy". Would people have raised the point if he said the "young guy" or the "older guy". Both could be considered ageist. It was just a way of distinguishing who he was talking about and wasn't used in a derogatory fashion. Surely terms like that are only racist if used in a derogatory fashion, which this wasn't.
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    Herbsman wrote:
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    The black guy doing the interview was crap. So crap that the two main presenters had to take over,
    Are the two main presenters black or white?

    Eh? They were white obviously. Oh, I see where this is going...

    I simply described him as 'the black guy', because I have no idea what his name is and it was a quick way to diferentiate him from the 2 main presenters.

    The comment was about how crap he is as a presenter and certainly not a comment on his ethnicity.

    Hope that clears it up.
  • PBo
    PBo Posts: 2,493
    derbygrimpeur wrote:
    not really. The guy who, in theory, wasn't doing the interview, probably did more of the interview than the guy that should have been doing the interview.

    We have no way of knowing whether he'd have said "white guy". Would people have raised the point if he said the "young guy" or the "older guy". Both could be considered ageist. It was just a way of distinguishing who he was talking about and wasn't used in a derogatory fashion. Surely terms like that are only racist if used in a derogatory fashion, which this wasn't.

    what about the ginger one? [/stir]
  • SLX01
    SLX01 Posts: 338
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    Herbsman wrote:
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    The black guy doing the interview was crap. So crap that the two main presenters had to take over,
    Are the two main presenters black or white?

    Eh? They were white obviously. Oh, I see where this is going...

    I simply described him as 'the black guy',

    Thats a bit sexist, what has his gender got to do with it? :lol:

    He was crap I hated it when he kept calling him 'Cav' as if they were best mates down the pub, I don't recall David Beckham refered to as 'Becks' when on the Breakfast sofa!?
  • derbygrimpeur
    derbygrimpeur Posts: 822
    SLX01 wrote:
    I hated it when he kept calling him 'Cav' as if they were best mates down the pub, I don't recall David Beckham refered to as 'Becks' when on the Breakfast sofa!?

    Yeah, they all referred to him as Cav, was getting right on my nerves. Show some respect.

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