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Contador CAS November 2011

redddraggonredddraggon Posts: 10,862
edited September 2011 in Pro race
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  • cogidubnuscogidubnus Posts: 860
    He'll be riding the Vuelta then I guess...

    What happens with his suspension. Is it from the hearing date or when the offence was committed. If it is the latter my theory is thus:

    He will be found guilty and given a 1 year suspension from June 2010. Thus he is stripped of all prizes and prizemoney in that period but crucially the 1 year is now up and he is able to keep riding.. Wasn't Valverde's suspension backdated to when he actually failed the test?
  • redddraggonredddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Cogidubnus wrote:
    He'll be riding the Vuelta then I guess...

    I believe he's announced he's not bothering this year with the Vuelta.
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  • LeicesterLadLeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    Cogidubnus wrote:
    He'll be riding the Vuelta then I guess...

    I believe he's announced he's not bothering this year with the Vuelta.

    Which is a shame, could have added some entertainment and style to a borefest.
  • andypandyp Posts: 8,702
    Cogidubnus wrote:
    He'll be riding the Vuelta then I guess...

    What happens with his suspension. Is it from the hearing date or when the offence was committed. If it is the latter my theory is thus:

    He will be found guilty and given a 1 year suspension from June 2010. Thus he is stripped of all prizes and prizemoney in that period but crucially the 1 year is now up and he is able to keep riding.. Wasn't Valverde's suspension backdated to when he actually failed the test?

    Valverde was banned for two years on 31st May 2010, but the ban was backdated to the 1st January 2010.
  • I work for the MoD and even we're more organised than the UCI/CAS etc. Unbelievable.
  • TMRTMR Posts: 3,986
    I work for the MoD and even we're more organised than the UCI/CAS etc. Unbelievable.

    I served 14 years in the Army and I call BS TBH :P
  • frenchfighterfrenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Cogidubnus wrote:
    He'll be riding the Vuelta then I guess...

    I believe he's announced he's not bothering this year with the Vuelta.

    Which is a shame, could have added some entertainment and style to a borefest.

    The Vuelta is a great race. Not always but the last two have been really great - better than the Tour maybe.

    This year is a climbers dream which is why I was hoping Contador would duke it out. 3 GTs ina year at max ia a lot though.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,280 Lives Here
    I mentioned this elsewhere, but according to Edwin Winkels on the Avondetappe, the UCI have said Contador will keep any victories post the test, regardless of the outcome of the hearing.

    So at worse, he gets banned and loses one Tour, rather than a Tour and a Giro (and all the other smaller races).
  • OffTheBackAdamOffTheBackAdam Posts: 1,869
    Whether he's guilty or not, the delay is ludicrous.
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  • pat1cppat1cp Posts: 766
    This one's like the "mousetrap". Gonna run and run.
  • StageWinnerStageWinner Posts: 202
    I may have read it wrong, but didn't WADA ask for this latest delay?
  • andypandyp Posts: 8,702
    They did.
  • LeicesterLadLeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    Think Bertie will get off with this one anyway, regardless of guilt or not, as said if he gets a back-dated ban then the whole fiasco proves about as useful as a hole in a lifeboat, frankly they should let the poor bloke off after p*ssing around for over a year.
  • I work for the MoD and even we're more organised than the UCI/CAS etc. Unbelievable.

    I served 14 years in the Army and I call BS TBH :P

    Haha let's call it a draw
  • andypandyp Posts: 8,702
    Think Bertie will get off with this one anyway, regardless of guilt or not, as said if he gets a back-dated ban then the whole fiasco proves about as useful as a hole in a lifeboat, frankly they should let the poor bloke off after p*ssing around for over a year.

    A substantial amount of the "pissing around" has been down to Contador's legal team employing classic delaying tactics, allowing their client to continue to race and earn his salary.

    You cannot have the biggest name in the sport testing positive and then just let him off because the wheels of justice are slow to turn.
  • fleshtuxedofleshtuxedo Posts: 1,839
    Think Bertie will get off with this one anyway, regardless of guilt or not, as said if he gets a back-dated ban then the whole fiasco proves about as useful as a hole in a lifeboat, frankly they should let the poor bloke off after p*ssing around for over a year.

    "let the poor bloke off"

    :lol:
  • LeicesterLadLeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    andyp wrote:
    Think Bertie will get off with this one anyway, regardless of guilt or not, as said if he gets a back-dated ban then the whole fiasco proves about as useful as a hole in a lifeboat, frankly they should let the poor bloke off after p*ssing around for over a year.

    A substantial amount of the "pissing around" has been down to Contador's legal team employing classic delaying tactics, allowing their client to continue to race and earn his salary.

    You cannot have the biggest name in the sport testing positive and then just let him off because the wheels of justice are slow to turn.

    Why not, i work for MoJ and have seen Rapists released under similar circumstances... :shock:

    And don't agree with the Contador delaying tactics completely, at the end of the day his Legal team may have made request's, like in any case in criminal law or elsewhere, but requests have to be granted...
  • Road AceRoad Ace Posts: 16
    What a farce.......

    How am I going to explain this one to the non cyclists at work tomorrow!
  • gsk82gsk82 Posts: 3,054
    Road Ace wrote:
    What a farce.......

    How am I going to explain this one to the non cyclists at work tomorrow!

    none of them will know about it so why would you need to explain it?
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  • DoobzDoobz Posts: 2,800
    Ban on clenbuterol doping drug may be relaxed


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14952870
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  • dougzzdougzz Posts: 1,833
    I don't see the relevance of this. Surely the rule would apply that was in place at the time. You couldn't retrospectively introduce a banned substance so would you you be apply to apply a retrospective limit.
    What am I talking about, why on earth would logic or reason be involved. This is a case that has ridiculed cycling, and there's surprise that sponsors aren't interested.
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