Amy Winehouse

SimonAH

Damn shame. What a lot of talent, what a waste.

suzyb

Saw the headline when I logged on to view my yahoo mail.

Sad but even more sad is that it's rather unsurprising.

cloggsy

T'is very sad, but she was a self fulfilling prophecy I'm afraid...

There's a fine line between Genius and Insanity - it has been proved many times over!

pst88

Should've gone to rehab.

joelsim

Not half as sad as what is happening in the horn of Africa really.

desweller

Joelsim wrote:

Not half as sad as what is happening in the horn of Africa really.

I don't think I understand the point you are trying to make.

RIP Amy. You had little enough of it when you were alive.

DonDaddyD

DesWeller wrote:

Joelsim wrote:

Not half as sad as what is happening in the horn of Africa really.

I don't think I understand the point you are trying to make.

RIP Amy. You had little enough of it when you were alive.

I'm kinda with Joel on this one.

A talent has been lost, young. RIP Amy.

But seriously how much of a terrible shock is this?

Also, it wasn't like she was abused or from an abusive family, she threw her talent away. I don't wish her dead, it is said. I'm not sure how much of a tragedy this is.

I'm sorry but she was part of that whole social culture that snorted coke and will take other drugs - get f*cked up - and look you square in the face and swear blindly that drugs could be taken casually. Well there you go.

The Oslo incident and Africa famine are more tragic and shocking.

But a young talent has been lost, RIP Amy.

jamesco

Her death is a tragedy (literally) and incredibly sad. This obituary gets it right.

SmellTheGlove

A genuine talent now I hope resting in peace.
If you can find a recording of her with Paul Weller (at the Round House I think it was) from 5/6 years ago, have a listen. Godawesomely good.

Confusedboy

A tragedy, but hardly a suprise; her untimely death was always a case of when rather than if. I liked her, both as an artist and a person, one who shot straight and from the hip. And there is no doubt in my mind that she most certainly was abused, by the very world she lived in which thought she was a bit of a joke, and by her own self-image.

Of course, the sad death of a singer cannot be compared to the major tragedies unfolding throughout the troubled world, but it is still a terrible thing.

pastey_boy

DonDaddyD wrote:

DesWeller wrote:

Joelsim wrote:

Not half as sad as what is happening in the horn of Africa really.

I don't think I understand the point you are trying to make.

RIP Amy. You had little enough of it when you were alive.

I'm kinda with Joel on this one.

A talent has been lost, young. RIP Amy.

But seriously how much of a terrible shock is this?

Also, it wasn't like she was abused or from an abusive family, she threw her talent away. I don't wish her dead, it is said. I'm not sure how much of a tragedy this is.

I'm sorry but she was part of that whole social culture that snorted coke and will take other drugs - get f*cked up - and look you square in the face and swear blindly that drugs could be taken casually. Well there you go.

The Oslo incident and Africa famine are more tragic and shocking.

But a young talent has been lost, RIP Amy.

how do you know she wasnt abused ? self harm, eating disorders and substance abuse are usually the signs that some sort of abuse either physical or sexual has occurred. im pretty sure that the perpetrator wont advertise the fact.

The Rookie

While its a tragedy for those who knew her, it's wholly unsurprising and she was not an iinocent victim, those in Oslo and Africa are.

Simon

rolf_f

Joelsim wrote:

Not half as sad as what is happening in the horn of Africa really.

DonDaddyD wrote:

The Oslo incident and Africa famine are more tragic and shocking.

These are different news items. You can be upset that a great talent has been lost at the same time as being upset about the Oslo atrocity and Africa. It's OK.

If there is another tsunami, should we cease to care about Oslo because, in comparison, the death toll of a tsunami renders Oslo inconsequential in comparison? (which it does)

On this basis, even September 11th isn't worth a front page.

DonDaddyD

With hindsight Rolf F is in fact right.

What I still think.

It's tragic that a life has been lost. It isn't a surprise.

greg66_tri_v2.0

She wasted her life. Her family begged her to clean herself up. She ignored them.

She's not someone I'll mourn the loss of, principally for that reason. Although I couldn't stand her music either.

notsoblue

Greg66 wrote:

She wasted her life. Her family begged her to clean herself up. She ignored them.

I doubt it was as simple as that.

DonDaddyD

notsoblue wrote:

Greg66 wrote:

She wasted her life. Her family begged her to clean herself up. She ignored them.

I doubt it was as simple as that.

Yes it was!

They tried to make her to go to rehab. She said "No!"

What, too soon?

rick_chasey

notsoblue wrote:

Greg66 wrote:

She wasted her life. Her family begged her to clean herself up. She ignored them.

I doubt it was as simple as that.

I think Greg sits on the right of this particular poster:

asprilla

It's as terrible waste of a young girl's life.

Anyway, moving on....

notsoblue

Rick Chasey wrote:

I think Greg sits on the right of this particular poster:

Great poster, ordered.

rolf_f

Greg66 wrote:

She wasted her life. Her family begged her to clean herself up. She ignored them.

Probably similar to telling a depressed person to pull themselves together. All seems straightforward if you are looking at it from the basis of being a reasonably balanced, normal and fully matured human being.

greg66_tri_v2.0

Rick Chasey wrote:

notsoblue wrote:

Greg66 wrote:

She wasted her life. Her family begged her to clean herself up. She ignored them.

I doubt it was as simple as that.

I think Greg sits on the right of this particular poster:

Entertaining as that poster is, my political views don't have anything to do with the simple fact that she threw her life away. No amount of after-the-event hand-wringing will rewrite that piece of history.

greg66_tri_v2.0

Rolf F wrote:

Greg66 wrote:

She wasted her life. Her family begged her to clean herself up. She ignored them.

Probably similar to telling a depressed person to pull themselves together. All seems straightforward if you are looking at it from the basis of being a reasonably balanced, normal and fully matured human being.

More like telling an addict that they are an addict and need to break their addiction. Plenty of addicts are able to break their addictions. They have to want to first though.

estampida

so from the outside it looks like:

the parents drove her as a talanted child, replacing love with achivement (not a healthy thing to do)

She then left the management that had her smoking J's

and started with 1 that had her smoking crack, the management really did not take care of her, but they still made their money from her, bet they have nice houses

and the rumer is that it was perscription drugs, not smack or anything illegal, so where is the doctor & his-tory...... repeats itself

MonkeyMonster

To go in classic style (and generate more questions from a br thread) and ask why general life viewpoints seemingly have (or need to have?) a political stance?

She got lots and lots of help. The priory et al are the more visible - she will have had doctors/therapists etc.

She chose to not want to help herself. She saw more gain in living that way than to stop and ignored the advice otherwise. That if anything is why it is a shame.

There is only so much you can do.

Greggles66 wrote:

They have to want to first though.

greg66_tri_v2.0

MaskedMinkeyFunMunster wrote:

Something "funny" with my name

Harrumpf!

notsoblue

Greg66 wrote:

More like telling an addict that they are an addict and need to break their addiction. Plenty of addicts are able to break their addictions. They have to want to first though.

From what I heard she was pretty lonely and isolated. I would presume she died because of self destructive tendencies, the various addictions were just a means to an end. You're right though, you can't help someone who won't help themselves.

gilesjuk

She hung around with a bad crowd. Pete Doherty and Russell Brand for instance.

As for Africa, get used to it. There's going to be a lot more of this due to climate change.

As for Somalia in general, it's a region full of terrorists. Rather than send them money why don't we save time and just blow ourselves up?

http://www.cfr.org/somalia/terrorism-ha ... alia/p9366

The US went there in 1993, as dramatised in the film Black Hawk Down.

gtvlusso

Very sorry for her family, but to weigh it up against a terrible week of news:

Children starving to death in Somalia
Lunatic shoots everyone not wearing a jumper in Norway
Alcoholic, drug addict that can sing dies

Sorry Amy, at the bottom of my "give a damn" list; just increased my debit to save the children though - hope they can save some children in Somalia.

Amy's story reflects some of Janis Joplins story....

ketsbaia

Yeah. Bloody druggy. Serves her right.

I still don't give a sh1t about Marco Pantani to this day.

etc.

tailwindhome

I see Greg's compassionectomy was a complete success