Compact chainsets .. what the heck is going on?

jgsi
jgsi Posts: 5,062
edited July 2011 in Road buying advice
Buying a bike off the peg is obviously the quickest way of getting 2 wheels...
but , lets take the cannondale range... caad10 or supersix... bikes that have a leaning towards being raced and not sportived or leisured... why oh why are they delivered with just compact and not a standard double?
Really don't understand.
I do understand that a decent retailer would swap out the chainset upon request, but extra faff to arrange.

anyone in the trade like to give insight?

Comments

  • rokkala
    rokkala Posts: 649
    Because those affluent mamils like to try and emulate the pros they see, even if that means riding a race bike with upturned stem etc. So they are just reacting to the market needs....

    Like you said, no big deal to swap out. Gear inches are gear inches anyway.
  • centimani
    centimani Posts: 467
    It did occur to me, living on the edge of the Fens which are as flat as a pancake...why you are stuck with a compact :roll:
    You're not of course, the bike i wanted just happened to be fitted with one, there were other standard chainsets on other bikes, but i wanted this one.
    Anyway... like me, if you dont want a compact 34/36 inner ring, its cheap enough to put a 38/39 or 40 inner on. I guess thats occured to the manufacturers, they're quick enough to adapt to your strength or terrain.
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    Compact's give a better spread of gears, you'd have to be pretty rapid to run out of gearing on a compact.

    I run a compact on two of my road bikes, and have yet to run out of gears, and a double on my TT bike, which I have run out of gears on a number of times, and am now in the market for a 55T ring.

    For a road bike, a compact is more than sufficient.
  • furrag
    furrag Posts: 481
    A 14 year old youth rider in our club who entered a 4th cat race (shouldn't have been allowed to!) got second place (iirc) at a standard Hillingdon bunch sprint finish in a 48x15.

    50x11 is bigger than 53x12. As above though, it's not all about the gear inches.
  • waterford123
    waterford123 Posts: 172
    I agree with danowat.

    I used to moan about running out of gears going down hills in Cornwall when I was an impressionable youth until a then first cat told me to 'turn my legs faster' it's a kernel of wisdom I've tried to adopt for the last 24 years.
  • nferrar
    nferrar Posts: 2,511
    I'm surprised none of the big three do something similar to the Look ZED2 chainset, which has bolt holes for both compact and standard BCD, I can't see it would cost that much more to manufacture and they'd only have to tool-up for one model.
  • markos1963
    markos1963 Posts: 3,724
    nferrar wrote:
    I'm surprised none of the big three do something similar to the Look ZED2 chainset, which has bolt holes for both compact and standard BCD, I can't see it would cost that much more to manufacture and they'd only have to tool-up for one model.

    Pointless as you can get 53/39 rings with 110 BCD(and a whole load of other sizes)
    I have a compact on my road bike and find the 50 ring more than ample, I have a 36 on the inner now as I don't like the big jump to a 34.
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    danowat wrote:
    Compact's give a better spread of gears, you'd have to be pretty rapid to run out of gearing on a compact.

    I run a compact on two of my road bikes, and have yet to run out of gears, and a double on my TT bike, which I have run out of gears on a number of times, and am now in the market for a 55T ring.

    For a road bike, a compact is more than sufficient.

    Top end may be okay, but I found the standard compact ratio of 34/50 meant I always seemed to be switching between the big and small rings (which then requires shifting up or down 3 sprockets at the back). I just don't find the same with a standard double. A 50 with a 36 or 38 would probably work much better.
    More problems but still living....
  • Berk Bonebonce
    Berk Bonebonce Posts: 1,245
    JGSI wrote:
    why oh why are they delivered with just compact and not a standard double?

    Because those same bikes are sold in areas of Europe and North America that are a lot hillier than North Staffs.
  • Chris McG
    Chris McG Posts: 189
    Furrag wrote:
    A 14 year old youth rider in our club who entered a 4th cat race got second place at a standard Hillingdon bunch sprint finish in a 48x15.

    who's that then?

    btw i'm a youth rider and i'm faster on youth gearing than my dad with a 53x11 gear
    "Orbea, Bianchi, Ridley, Van Nicholas, Planet X, Niner. My Euro-bike menagerie was going well up to the last 2..."